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do you think Buffy was in pag-ibig with Spike

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tinkymel said:
I am a Spuffy fan, but no she wasn't in pag-ibig with him. It is that old saying,"I pag-ibig you, but I'm not in pag-ibig with you." It think she loved him for all the right reasons at the end, but she started out using him. We know that he was crazy in pag-ibig with her, but that he understood that she would never be in pag-ibig with him. She is flawed in her ability to love. That is what makes her so endearing. She wants to pag-ibig and have a normal life, but keeps involving herself with men that can't give that to her. As much as I hate to admit it her only true pag-ibig is Angel. That is the only person that has truly been in pag-ibig with. Everyone else has been fillers. As we see at the end of the ipakita she tells Spike she loves him, but he lets her know that she knows that she doesn't. It is sad, but sometimes pag-ibig is not returned in the same way. And with all the really hurtful things that he did to her, I don't think she could ever let that go.
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babybell said:
Yes. Definitely yes. I am really not in the mood to explain why, so i will come back later and do that, but mhmm.
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Isabellas_girl said:
I think Buffy deffinatlly pag-ibig Spike.JW even confurmed it and the writers did too.If Spike hadn'told her to go out of the cave she would have stayed and die whit him.If this isn't pag-ibig then I don't know what this is.
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joss never confirmed it thats why there are so many arguments between bangel and spuffy fans, joss never gives us an answer on them couples!
x-missmckena-x posted sa loob ng isang taon na ang nakalipas
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JW sinabi that Buffy was in pag-ibig whit Spike the moment their hands clasped.he laso sid that Bangel's relationship ended in the graveyard and that the cokkie speach was only a hope for the bangels and that the man in Buffy's life was Spike.:)
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Buffy definitely was in pag-ibig with Spike. She chose him over and over again. When Xander was strung up sa pamamagitan ng demon Ashanti and they (Robin, Spike and Buffy) found him...during the fight Spike got knocked down. Buffy chose to see if Spike was okay before checking on Xander who had Nawawala a lot of blood. There is the one incident when Caleb destroyed Xander's eye...Buffy was very emotional and physically distant...but when it came to Spike she was animated and hands-on even putting herself in danger. She basically defied everyone and everything when it came to Spike. If that’s not being "in love" I don't know what is. When Giles was delaying Buffy in the cemetery so Robin could kill Spike…Buffy admitted that if she had to do it all over again she would let Dawn die. Giles tried to point out that she should do the same for Spike. She reacted sa pamamagitan ng killing the vamp and racing over to save Spike…she had tears in her eyes. Then she threatens Robin…saying “most importantly I will let him kill you”. All this she did under the guise of needing Spike because he is the strongest warrior…bull…she wouldn’t let Spike leave when he wanted to. Even when she had another option (Angel) she chose Spike. She basically chose Spike and his wellbeing before anyone else.
laydydee posted sa loob ng isang taon na ang nakalipas
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@Isabellas_girl: I also want to add Buffy never answered Angel when he asked her if she was in pag-ibig with Spike...she totally ignored that question. If she wasn't she would have sinabi no. However, she went to say that Spike wasn't her boyfriend but he was in her heart. The night Buffy and Spike spent cuddling brought them close...they both had the closeness issues. I think when Spike asked "were you there with me" what he was really asking her was if she felt what he felt...the closeness.
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alco_holz said:
Buffy loves Spike the same way she loves Xander. If you listen to the chosen commentary he says that he needed to bring the Spuffy r'ship around to a place that wasn't romantic/sexual BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WRONG. He also sinabi in that same episode that the whole cookie speech was to give the hope for BA. Even in the midst of her r'ship with Spike in s7 Buffy sinabi she loved Angel madami than she would ever pag-ibig anything in her life. She refused to allow Angel to wear the amulet but let Spike. She trusted Angel with her legacy if she didn't make it out, but she wouldn't risk him. She stayed in the cave because she wanted Spike to leave because he was her friend. She left him, she would never have left Angel because she is Angel's girl, always. When she see's the future, it is him.
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Ladyluck523 said:
I don't think Buffy realized she was in pag-ibig with Spike until she told him so in the Hellmouth.
I agree that during season 6, before he got his soul, she used him. She treated him differently after she found out he got his soul back for her. They had a slowly growing relationship through
season 7. First, she didn't dust him even though there was strong evidence that he had killed and turned some people. Second, she risked herself to get him back from The First. Third, when Spike offered to leave Sunnydale, since it was unclear if he was still under The First's influence, Buffy told him she was not ready to let him leave. Fourth, she drew strength from him the night she got kicked from the house and he gave her the "you're the one" speech (how any girl could NOT fall in pag-ibig after that speech, I'll never know). In fact after that night, they realized something was happening but that would talk about it "maybe when..." Fifth, she chose him as her champion.
So yes, I do believe ultimately that Buffy is in pag-ibig with Spike.
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laydydee said:
In S7 Buffy said..."why does everyone in this house think I am still in pag-ibig with Spike". You cannot be "still" in pag-ibig with someone if you were never in pag-ibig with that person. Which means she was in pag-ibig with Spike in S6.

Yes Buffy was in pag-ibig with Spike...she finally admitted it to herself in the finale when she interlaced her fingers with his. Their hands catch on apoy (I think that was symbolic of their souls coming together) and you could see the resolve on her face...she knew she loved him and Spike knew she loved him without a shadow of a doubt at that moment. He had that look...especially when their hands met...he felt it. The "no you don't...thanks for saying it" is an example of the usual banter between them. He couldn't allow himself to acknowledge it out loud. He was content...he finally was the man worthy of her...the man she believed he could be...the man she chose over and over again defying everyone. He wanted to be her hero. I think in that moment for Spike it was not necessary for her to say it...even though it was something he always wanted to hear. I think if Spike hadn't told her to leave she would have stayed with him to the end.

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she never told Riley that she loved him, not once, and she prefered Spike over Angel the "love of her life"
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frankthe2nd said:
Yes, of course she did. She just didn't realize it until Spike was about to die.

Seriously, she sinabi it and JOSS sinabi it. If you want to argue with the creator, pfft, go right ahead.
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SpikeLuve said:
I think you're supposed to decide it for yourself. I like to think she was, maybe not in the same way she loved Angel. But yes, I think she loved Spike in a special way.
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x-missmckena-x said:
This is really an opinated tanong and should really be a pick not a tanong if that makes sense.
It all depends on how you see the Spuffy relationship some people beleive that it is the only relationship worth mentioning others beleive it didnt even exsist.
I personally beleive that there was a connection in the end well season 7 and tat Buffy did start to respect him but wheather she loved him or not i dont think even she knew, i dont think she did she could of maybe in time but i think in the end she just really repected him and had a connection with him!
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brosis101 said:
maybe but im not 100% sure. Buffy may be in pag-ibig with spike but not deeply. maybe shes in pag-ibig spike because she needs someone similar to angel in her life. Spike and angel are pretty similar. Both vampires, now both have souls and are still deeply in pag-ibig with the slayer.
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I personally do not think Spike and Angel were similar at all. The only thing they have in common besides being in pag-ibig with Buffy is having a soul. To me Spike showed human traits whether he was soulless or ensouled. You cannot say that about Angel...when he was soulless he was twisted, evil and a bada$$. I am not saying Spike did not have his bad side but he also had a good side. Spike got his soul back to get the girl...Angel's soul was forced on him as punishment sa pamamagitan ng the gypsies…he never wanted it. Spike's demeanor was basically the same with or without a soul. Angel's demeanor was araw and night with or without a soul respectively. A soulless Spike fell in pag-ibig with Buffy. I couldn’t see a soulless Angel falling in pag-ibig with Buffy.
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Spike and Angel are nothing alike. Sure there is the soul and them both being Bampira but they are completely different. Spike was madami human the Angel was in a way. Sure Angel didnt drink human blood like Spike did but Spike was madami human. And I agree with laydydee Spike got his soul for Buffy, Angel didnt. Angel had a soul but even with it he was dark. Spike without a soul was evil but in a different way. He also had times when he worked with the scoobies. I also agree with Spike being souless and loving Buffy, Angel would have still gone after Darla if he had a soul, Spike was going to kill Dru to ipakita Buffy what he felt for her. Ding Ding Ding We have a winner. Spike loved her maybe not as much as Angel in the normal way but just as much in his own way.
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MarciaSwan said:
Yes. The last words she sinabi to Spike "I pag-ibig you" and he aswer " No you not, but thank you for saying that" but i think Buffy loves Spike
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clanbillr said:
No I never thought that Buffy was in pag-ibig with Spike. We all knew that Spike was in total pag-ibig with Buffy!! In season six everyone thinks that Buffy's in pag-ibig but she actually tells us all that Spike is pure evil!!! No matter what he thinks he's doing to get Buffy to pag-ibig him it's all for him. She tells everyone also that she loves Angel. She does use Spike for sex though!!! In season seven when Spike gets his soul he thinks its to just get the girl. She feels his soul but defiantly doesn't pag-ibig him still. She uses Spike again because he's needed to save the world sa pamamagitan ng killing the vampire's and closing the Hell mouth forever!!! She does tell him she loves him but she just respects him and his destiny. He finally tells the true because he feels it, She doesn't pag-ibig me but thanks for saying it!!!
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I believed Buffy was in pag-ibig with Spike. She was in denial...she protested too much. If Angel was the one...the pag-ibig of her life...why didn't she take the opportunity to spend the night or a few hours with him when he delivered the amulet. She hadn't seen him in a while...she was about to go to war with badass the First evil and could potentially die. So I would have expected her to spend some time with Angel. Sex was out but cuddling was in...like the night she spent with Spike. Instead she gave Angel the cookie dough speech and sent him on his way...telling him to be ready if she doesn't succeed. Come on...that was the moment she truly chose Spike over Angel in her puso and Angel knew it. She then went tahanan and spent the night with Spike...I deduced they made pag-ibig because the First as Caleb sinabi "why aren't you asleep in your dead lovers' arms"...not dead ex lover or dead former lover. She finally admitted her pag-ibig for Spike because it was undeniable. When their hands clasped both Buffy and Spike knew she was in pag-ibig with Spike without a shadow of a doubt. The flames that engulfed their hands were symbolic of their souls coming together. The look on Spike’s face…Buffy was panicked and concerned telling Spike he did enough…it’s time to go. The moment they touched it all changed…Spike’s eyes went to their hands…Buffy swallowed and her face became calm. Buffy couldn’t deny the pag-ibig she felt for Spike anymore so she sinabi “I pag-ibig you”…that is when Spike pulled a Buffy sa pamamagitan ng responding with "no you don't". Those are the same words she used when he professed his pag-ibig for her even though she knew damn well he was telling the truth. He thanked her...but at that time it was not necessary for her to say it even though it was something he wanted to hear for a long time...they were feeling it. I think Buffy would have stayed with him till the end if they had not been forced apart and if Spike hadn't sinabi "now go". He was at peace…he wanted to be her champion…her hero…the man she believed him to be…the man she finally admitted she was in pag-ibig with. He wanted one of them to live.
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blueeyestheory said:
Yes Buffy loved Spike. In one of the episodes she says "why does everyone in this house think I am still in pag-ibig with Spike". This proves that she had to pag-ibig him at one point in season 6. People argue that it was always Angel becuase she made him get a segundo army to continue if she failed but she gave the amulet to Spike. She gave it to him becuase she needed a segundo army and becuase she knew Spike would do it. She also told him to go when the hellmouth was caving in he wouldnt becuase he knew it would save everyone. there is no doubt that Spike loved Buffy. She didnt want to leave him and you knew that she loved him. When she says it she didnt just say it to make him feel better. He sinabi "no you dont, but thanks for saying it." becuase that's how their relationship has always been. They cant be with each other but they did and this is just a reminder of that. Also in the book after he dies she was going to tell Giles about what happened when they all left but she didnt. She wanted it to be a secret, one thing no one else knew about. It was a special moment she wanted. This proves she loved Spike.
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maddythespaz said:
Sort of. Do you remember when Buffy told Tara (R.I.P) that she was sleeping with Spike? When Tara asked Buffy if she loved Spike, Buffy was silent in the sort of that says "Yes, I'm in pag-ibig with him, but I'm not going to say anything because he's a vampire and I'm supposed to hate him."
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goodbyemra said:
Buffy is not a girl who throws around the words "I pag-ibig you". In season 5, she sinabi it felt strange to say it, even to GILES. She NEVER sinabi it to Riley. So please please PLEASE tell me why anyone would think that the last words she sinabi to her closest friend and strongest ally, as he's facing death like a motherfucking HERO, would be anything less than the pure, unadulterated truth? She could have sinabi "Thank you" or "You don't have to do this" or any number of things. She's never really been one to say things just to make Spike feel better, has she? But she told him the thing that is the hardest thing in the world for her to say, because it was TRUE.
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Findabhair said:
No, not when they were together. Buffy was using Spike. She was feeling so numb she got into that relationship with Spike, knowing he was interested in her, just to feel something. Throughout their entire relationship, she felt ashamed and dirty. At the end of the last episode, though, when Spike is burning up, Buffy says she loves him. I think she just has this deep feeling of respect for him, not love. Before that, they cuddle. Buffy needs someone, Spike is seeking redemption, and so is Buffy. Many feelings there, but I don't think it's love. Spike even says so when he is dying after she tells him. The end of their relationship is remarkable with all of the mutual respecting, considering Buffy abused the infatuated Spike for almost an entire season, broke up with him and crushed his dreams, and then the used Spike tried to force himself upon Buffy. Love? I think not. But definitely something. They tormented each other, much like Cathy and Heathcliff minus the ever-lasting love, starting from Spike's first appearance on the ipakita in School Hard.
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spuffyromy said:
At the end yes she was
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Vampire-Girl013 said:
i think she used spike to fill the whole in her puso after riley left. i dont think she ever loved him
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simple case of mind over matter
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tmac4369 said:
Yes, I truly belive Buffy really was in pag-ibig with Spike.
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Shalimar_ said:
No, she always loved only Angel.
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flootzavut said:
"Why does everyone think I'm still in pag-ibig with Spike?"

You can't "still" be in pag-ibig with someone if you weren't in the first place. Jury's out over whether this line means she was definitely no longer in pag-ibig with him, in denial, unsure how she felt about him, or in the process of falling back in pag-ibig with him, but that "still" doesn't leave room for her to never have been in pag-ibig with him in the first place.
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