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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Disney Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general Fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of Fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the araw pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, or what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Disney Princess, i.e. no formal toga and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps madami realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then you check out the DP club on Fanpop, and you find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The pinagmulan of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that you find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Disney Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced or too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the Fanpop opinion is madami critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does ipakita a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, or how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often sinabi that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, or impossibly positive. We need something madami convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Disney Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Disney poking fun at itself, but it can rub fans the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down sa pamamagitan ng the pamagat of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal pamagat or other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The madami I think about it, the madami I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, you don't need to be a princess to save the araw or to be someone important or worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, you think you're better than the Disney Princesses, is that right?" or "Yeah, the princess pamagat is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then ipakita us that sinabi character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their kamakailan bidyo and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Disney heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why fans can have such opposing nakakita on other characters, like Ariel or Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued sa pamamagitan ng other fans.
 1. Working dress
1. Working dress
Hi there, My susunod princess will be Cinderella. She has a few madami outfits than snow white so we will be having madami information today.

1. Working dress
I must begin sa pamamagitan ng saying it's not a dress It's just a blue tuktok with a brown like vest on, brown skirt, white tapis with brown flat plump shoes. Like snow whites it's not an outfit you would go on a petsa with or meet a handsome prince but for a worker then its the best for the job. 5/10

2. Ball dress A
Those step sisters just can't stand her and her dress as it was quickly destroyed. The dress is a kulay-rosas mainly with a white lower section, kulay-rosas heels...
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Hello again everyone! Here we are with the listahan of best brown outfits. There are a few of them among the DPs, and I enjoyed this countdown because these outfits so rarely get the spotlight. Most of them are overshadowed sa pamamagitan ng other outfits the characters wear. Hope you enjoyed it!

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6. Snow White's brown and white dress

I was kind of sad to see this dress be the first eliminated, although I expected as much. I'm rather fond of this dress for some reason. I'm not sure why. I actually like it better than her iconic dress - I think the mga kulay look much nicer on her...
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 Hello Kenny.
Hello Kenny.
Okay, since I had done with Enya. Now it's Kenny G's turn! Are you ready?

1. Songbird

Whenever I listened to this music, Snow White would come to my mind since she loves birds, especially during the 'With a Smile and a Song' and the 'Working Song' scene.

2. sa pamamagitan ng the Time the Night is Over

Ella and Kit/ Sinderella and Prince Charming, I personally think it bumagay the latter madami because when the night is over, he will find the mysterious girl that fits the glass slipper.

3. puso and Soul

Princess Aurora and Prince Philip will dance together to this music, especially during 'Once upon a Dream' and...
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 Belle and Beast - 'Beauty and the Beast'
Belle and Beast - 'Beauty and the Beast'
1 Belle and Beast - 'Beauty and the Beast'

Sometimes it's the little details, like lady Lumiere in the background and dude!Belle's glasses in his pocket.


2 Cruella de Vil - '101 Dalmatians'

And sometimes it's just being uncomfortably attracted to one of the most evil people in the Disney lexicon.

3 Elsa - 'Frozen'

There would be no eternal winter with this smoking hot King on the Thorne.

4 Esmeralda - 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame'

Did God help the outcasts get ripped? Because dayum.


5. Hades - 'Hercules'

This makeover makes her derisive 'He's a man!' line even better.


6 Sophie and Howl - 'Howl's Moving...
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uy everyone! This is my segundo countdown in the series, and it was a short one since there are only three yellow dresses and one kahel dress among the DPs. Despite that, I thought it was a good countdown.

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4. Tiana's kahel dress

I don't think this dress is ugly, but most users agreed that it was very plain, and some didn't like the color on Tiana very much.



It's not as cute as the others and it's not iconic like Belle and Snow White's dress. ~SarahCorine
It is also nice, but others are just better. ~hirohamada
Orange is not a flattering color on Tiana. ~wavesurf
Not interesting....
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uy everyone! So this is the first culminating artikulo in a series of countdowns that I am doing. There will be one for each color of outfit. The winning outfit in each countdown will then continue on to a final countdown which will determine Fanpop's number one DP outfit. Enjoy! :)

9. Mulan's kulay-rosas and blue underclothes

I didn't mind this outfit. In fact, I quite liked the contrast between the blue tuktok and kulay-rosas bottom. However, most users disagreed, finding it too plain.



Unremarkable. ~Silverrose1991
It's very plain and is just undergarments ~KataraLover
Too plain and not interesting. ~Sparklefairy375...
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 Loving this movie.
Loving this movie.
Okay, I was watching the 2012 version of Les Miserables last night and I had seen the 2015 reboot of Sinderella last month. Both pelikula have a common theme with each other: Forgiveness. The characters also play a similar traits to each other.

Cinderella

While watching this movie last month, I keep thinking that the story reminds me of Les Miserables! Aside from the same filming location of France, certain scenes and characters remind of some characters from Les Miserables.
For example, during the scene after Lady Tremaine and the 2 stepsisters called Ella sa pamamagitan ng her trademark name, Cinderella. The...
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 Team Miss Universe
Team Miss Universe
Hi everyone, since nobody posted this up, I thought it would be interesting to write this listahan if all of the Princesses are judges in both Miss Universe and Miss World, two of the oldest Beauty Pageants ever and what will their tanong be.

1. Snow White

"Describe yourself, are you an optimistic or pessimistic person?"

2. Cinderella

"If you're married into a member of a Royal Family, are you willing to follow in the footsteps of Princess Diana or Kate Middleton?"

3. Princess Aurora

"Do you believe in a Damsel in Distress moment?"

4. Ariel

"Which species do you want to be? A human or a fish?"

5. Belle...
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Heyyyy everyone! I thought I'd try to not be POOR sa pamamagitan ng becoming an active user on this site! GIVE ME ALL THE ginto MUAHAHAHA----oh, excuse me. You didn't hear anything. :P (But really, I want to deck out my profile!!)

Anyway, here's my princess ranking!!



13. Anna

Anna-banana is cute, but I just like the others more. :P



12. Cinderella

I don't like how Sinderella doesn't really stand up for herself! Yeah she shows a good work ethic, but damn girl! Put that backbone to good USE! That being said, she's really pretty except for her hair during the ball. Like what is UP with that headband??


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posted by MaidofOrleans
Sorry it took me so long to finish this countdown. I just got lazy I guess haha. I did this countdown because while there have been multiple "Best Kiss" countdowns I have never seen the "Almost Kisses" get much appreciation. I think they are cute and suspenseful, so I thought I would give them the spotlight for once. Here are the results, compiled for your enjoyment. :)

9. Tiana and Naveen's 1st Almost Kiss

It's no surprise this halik left first. It's the only one here that isn't romantic in the slightest, since Tiana doesn't even want to halik him and she's only doing it to get her restaurant....
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 misscindyspice made this
misscindyspice made this
A while ago, I did a poll series called "A Movie Staring Disney Princesses" , deciding what roles Disney Princesses would play in a movie (results are down below. And then I posted a forum, deciding plots. Although I did decide most of the plot, many people helped me get started and got the plot going in my head, so I can't take all the credit. Thank you to those who participated- whether you helped in the forum, voted in the presinto or both, and I'm sorry for the long wait. This will take place in a few parts- I don't know how many exactly, but I estimate four-five.

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uy there! I'm isabellagirl033 and as you all are well aware Sinderella has been adapted many times into live-action pelikula though only some manage to truely be a hit. I'm going to break down some of my favourite portrayals into my tuktok 5.
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5. Hillary Duff, A Sinderella Story
Despite it's cringe-worthiness and lack of loyalty to it's source, I still managed to enjoy the movie. Tween icon Hillary Duff is the last thing that comes into my mind when I think of Sinderella but she made a convincing one at that. I think this spot goes to Hillary Duff mostly due to...
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I have already done this, a few months nakaraan actually and I decided to do it again. My opinion has changed a lot, because a lot of people have made good points and so many of these good points have changed my opinion quite s bit.

13. Aurora






It's not so much that I dislike her, it's just I found her kind of bland in her movie. She was boring, though I enjoyed her sweet personality. I get she had to sleep, it was simply a part of her story, but I just didn't get to know her much. I know it sounds kind of unfair, but I find it hard to place her higher.

12. Pocahontas






I don't dislike her...
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 Who do you choose? Live-action reboot or Animated???
Who do you choose? Live-action reboot or Animated???
So, since Disney has release 2 live-action reboots of their Disney classic animated feature. Here is what I think about which movie is better, as well as their animated counterparts.

Cinderella (1950 & 2015)

I would definitely go for the live-action version, as mentioned in my nakaraan articles. Ella has madami personality compare to her animated counterpart, and of course, less screen-time for the mice.
However, no Bruno the dog! Also, no songs in it. I wish it was, but on the other hand, the producers and Kenneth Brannagh didn't want the movie to be to close to its original 1950 animated...
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 The cast!
The cast!
Hi guys, since nagyelo has took the world sa pamamagitan ng storm, this artikulo is basically about my initial impressions about the story-line, the songs and music, as well as the art and characters' designs back in 2003, 10 years before the movie that took the world sa pamamagitan ng storm.

The Story

When I first heard that Disney was going to adapt the Snow Queen, my first impression was that it was going to be faithful towards the original story sa pamamagitan ng Hans Christian Anderson. Secondly, I thought that it was about 2 sisters who one of them discover to have ice powers, according to a prophecy, were separated since they were...
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Hi everyone!

In this article, I’m going to compare two pelikula from the Disney Revival, one revolving around a Nawawala princess with magical golden hair, and the other revolving around two sisters, one of whom is a reyna with ice powers.

Part A.    Which is the "better" movie?

Tangled has a madami cohesive plot and seems to me to have deeper characters that interact superbly with each other. Emotions and thoughts were successfully conveyed with an abundance of facial expressions. The hair animation was astounding, but the skin and eyes could sometimes seem plastic-like or lifeless....
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