Of course, we all have our faves and we feel a certain way when our paborito princesses are getting criticized. For me, I do feel like Tiana gets quite a bit of flack, some deserved but some is quite overboard. For example, people call Tiana mean and even ruthless for simply doing what sinag tells her sa pamamagitan ng leaving him to fight off the shadows sa pamamagitan ng himself but if she went against his orders, you know that would be yet another opportunity for people to call her condescending. So I'm just gonna counter some complaints against Tiana.
Human Tiana is madami likable than frog Tiana.
Not really gonna disagree with that one lol.
Tiana is rude and condescending.
She's only ever rude to Naveen and sinag that one time. She has every right to be mad at Naveen, it's understandable to be aggressive towards someone who puts you in a dangerous situation. Also, Naveen is just as arrogant and judgmental towards Tiana as she is to him, just because you agree with Naveen's philosophy more, it doesn't make him anymore right or less rude. As for that ONE time with sinag that people pag-ibig to bring up, she was speaking out of hurt, sinag himself acknowledges that.
Otherwise, she's pretty well mannered and respectful, she's far less prone to emotional outbursts compared to other princesses, and she takes criticism (her mom, her friends) and even flat-out disrespect (the chef at Duke's, Mr. and Mr. Finner) in stride. A lot of other princesses would either react like an aggressive brat (Jasmine) or an emotional wreck (Mulan) if they encountered the amount of dissent Tiana has to endure. She even calls Mama Odie "ma'am". Tiana may not agree with Lottie's ideals but Tiana never talks down to Lottie and she even gives her payo on how to achieve her dreams of romance. Granted most of these are when she's human, so this kinda adds to the first point.
Her character is "anti-wishing" and "anti-fairytale"
I do think aspects of Tiana's character panders to the anti-Disney crowd. I mean, it's no surprise that the first black princess just has to be a "hard-working independent aspiring businesswoman blah blah blah", but here's the thing, the reason why PATF doesn't piss Disney fans off as much as other revival films, is that it ultimately embraces the trope it's criticizing. bravo and nagyelo do this to an extent as well but PATF is just....better at it.
This common argument would make a lot madami sense if Tiana was a lazy slacker and everyone was nagging her to start working hard but she's portrayed as in the wrong for working too hard, her lesson is to learn to do so less and in the end while hard work helped her get part of the way, love, luck, and faith are what helped her reach the finish line. This is in contrast to Naveen who's portrayed as in the wrong for having too much fun and he learns his lesson accordingly. Are they the most well-written character arcs? Not really. Did the writers actually try to have a fair objective view on the subject from both sides? Yes.
Tiana being a frog for most of the movie is problematic and even "racist".
This is really stupid. This was just Disney trying to put their own on the original fairytale. Like "let's turn the princess into a frog too in our version! So original!" Is it stupid? Depends on who you ask. Is it racist? Hell no.
So there you go, I plan on doing this for other princesses in the future. Thanks for reading.
Human Tiana is madami likable than frog Tiana.
Not really gonna disagree with that one lol.
Tiana is rude and condescending.
She's only ever rude to Naveen and sinag that one time. She has every right to be mad at Naveen, it's understandable to be aggressive towards someone who puts you in a dangerous situation. Also, Naveen is just as arrogant and judgmental towards Tiana as she is to him, just because you agree with Naveen's philosophy more, it doesn't make him anymore right or less rude. As for that ONE time with sinag that people pag-ibig to bring up, she was speaking out of hurt, sinag himself acknowledges that.
Otherwise, she's pretty well mannered and respectful, she's far less prone to emotional outbursts compared to other princesses, and she takes criticism (her mom, her friends) and even flat-out disrespect (the chef at Duke's, Mr. and Mr. Finner) in stride. A lot of other princesses would either react like an aggressive brat (Jasmine) or an emotional wreck (Mulan) if they encountered the amount of dissent Tiana has to endure. She even calls Mama Odie "ma'am". Tiana may not agree with Lottie's ideals but Tiana never talks down to Lottie and she even gives her payo on how to achieve her dreams of romance. Granted most of these are when she's human, so this kinda adds to the first point.
Her character is "anti-wishing" and "anti-fairytale"
I do think aspects of Tiana's character panders to the anti-Disney crowd. I mean, it's no surprise that the first black princess just has to be a "hard-working independent aspiring businesswoman blah blah blah", but here's the thing, the reason why PATF doesn't piss Disney fans off as much as other revival films, is that it ultimately embraces the trope it's criticizing. bravo and nagyelo do this to an extent as well but PATF is just....better at it.
This common argument would make a lot madami sense if Tiana was a lazy slacker and everyone was nagging her to start working hard but she's portrayed as in the wrong for working too hard, her lesson is to learn to do so less and in the end while hard work helped her get part of the way, love, luck, and faith are what helped her reach the finish line. This is in contrast to Naveen who's portrayed as in the wrong for having too much fun and he learns his lesson accordingly. Are they the most well-written character arcs? Not really. Did the writers actually try to have a fair objective view on the subject from both sides? Yes.
Tiana being a frog for most of the movie is problematic and even "racist".
This is really stupid. This was just Disney trying to put their own on the original fairytale. Like "let's turn the princess into a frog too in our version! So original!" Is it stupid? Depends on who you ask. Is it racist? Hell no.
So there you go, I plan on doing this for other princesses in the future. Thanks for reading.
"Now, what's going on? Why are you two arguing?" asked Dee Dee, Prince Charming & Sinderella look at each other nervously. "Well, I was upset that Prince Charming didn't tell me that Ella and Kit were coming and their movie." replied Cinderella.
"Are you really sure Sinderella that you two are not jealous of us?" asks Ella, looking very concerned that her animated counterparts may not like them due to their popularity. "No, we're not, it's just....I don't know!" lied Cinderella, "Listen, we're going to start packing, we're going back to France tomorrow morning!" sinabi Prince Charming.
They hurry out of Dee's room and went upstairs to pack, Dee Dee catches a glimpse of tears coming out of Cinderella's eyes. Knowing that her time is coming to end, she and the other princess must do something. "But how? I'm having an nagging feeling about this!" thought Dee Dee.
"Are you really sure Sinderella that you two are not jealous of us?" asks Ella, looking very concerned that her animated counterparts may not like them due to their popularity. "No, we're not, it's just....I don't know!" lied Cinderella, "Listen, we're going to start packing, we're going back to France tomorrow morning!" sinabi Prince Charming.
They hurry out of Dee's room and went upstairs to pack, Dee Dee catches a glimpse of tears coming out of Cinderella's eyes. Knowing that her time is coming to end, she and the other princess must do something. "But how? I'm having an nagging feeling about this!" thought Dee Dee.
freeze, freeze, go away
come again another day
icicles, icicles
they all fall down
sister, sister
where are you dearest
freeze will come
and breeze you away
i can freeze
you can freeze
we all freeze for ice cream
11 users has voted in the poll: 'Will you add some songs for the Eurovision Songcontest Disney Princesses Theme?' Almost the half of the users has sinabi 'no' the others has voted 'maybe'. want to change the part of adding songs in the contest and want to. do it with polls. The best three songs from each movie joins the contest. This is just an idea, maybe I'm just impatient. If there is enthousiasm and users add songs. I won't change it. But it's likely that, that won't happen. So I'm preparing now to the other way of selecting songs for the contest. I hope you will vote in the contest! It's my first contest on Fanpop!
It Should Have Been in the Film
I personally think that it should be in the film, it could be sung as duet between either for Hans & Anna, Kristoff & Anna or Anna & Elsa. But most likely latter, because it's like Anna is telling her sister to pag-ibig again after years of being estranged.
It Should Not Be in the Film
Due to the time constraint of the film, I was partially glad that this song did not make it to the song. Wish it was anyway, it also gives the Lopez a chance to umakda a new song despite that they did the Winnie the Pooh movie previously.
Love Can't Be Denied
So what are your thoughts about this song? To be or not to be, that is the question!
1) The Prince and the Pauper
I know that Disney had made this starring Mickey Mouse, if there was a Princess version of it. It would be a good idea, the story setting will set in either South Korea or Japan.
The story will be 100% faithful towards its original story sa pamamagitan ng Mark Twain.
2) The Man in the Iron Mask
I pag-ibig this story very much, since watching the 1998 version with Leonardo Di Caprio in it. They will base it on the 1998 version, with the exception that the evil twin redeems himself in the end. Making the first twin princesses to become 2 queens and will rule the country with pag-ibig and peace, making them the 2 beloved Queens.
Conclusion
Since I only have 2 suggestions as listed, if there are anymore suggestions. Please feel free to add madami in the comments.