Harry Potter Vs. Twilight Club
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Warning: This is quite long.

Before I begin, I would like to say that this is my personal opinion along with evidence to support my opinion. You are free to disagree with me, but please, no hating. Also, please do not accuse me of not pagbaba the books. I have read each of the novels in the Twilight "Saga", from Twilight to Breaking Dawn. I have also read all of the Harry Potter books (numerous times), from Philosophers Stone to Deathly Hallows.

It annoys me enormously, hearing people say that Twilight is better than Harry Potter. I personally believe that Harry Potter overshadows Twilight in every area, in every way, shape and form. I look at reasons why Twilighters think that Twilight is better than Harry Potter, and here is what I see:

-Because Edward is so hot! Harry is ugly!
-Twilight is madami realistic!
-Twilight has madami love!

I do not think that a book is amazing just because a character is gorgeous. In fact, I think that the fact that all the good guys are beautiful in Twilight is really arrogant and reflects very poor things about Stephenie Meyer. In Harry Potter, you have some good guys that are beautiful and others that are not so nice looking. For example, Luna Lovegood and Cedric Diggory are supposed to be very pleasant to look at, but characters such as Mad-Eye Moody are... not so nice looking. Yet Mad-Eye is still, undoubtably, a very good character.

Twilight is sa pamamagitan ng no means madami realistic than Harry Potter. Yes, I know, Harry Potter has magic, Twilight takes place in a real setting. First thing: the "logic" in Twilight is embarrasing. It is clear that Meyer did as little research as possible, not really thinking things through before deciding what happens. Harry Potter, on the other hand, does not need logic. It's magic! Secondly, the characters of Harry Potter are a lot madami realistic that those of Twilight. Besides being well developed, the characters of Harry Potter are not passing for "perfect". Each one has flaws and strengths, and each reacts appropriately for different situations. Twilight, on the other hand, is extremely unrealistic when it comes to character reactions. For example, Bella is one of the least likable characters of all time (I will get to her later on, though), yet everyone seems to pag-ibig and ADORE her. In fact, anybody who does not pag-ibig her either changes their mind later on or is viewed as a bad guy, a bitch, or extraordinarily shallow. Also, did you notice that in Forks High School, there are only two cliques? The Popular Folks and The Vampires? Not to mention, the two groups merge into one in the end. At Hogwarts, you have Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs, Ravenclaws, Slytherins, Quidditch Players, Pranksters, Extreme Studiers, Dumbledore's Army, tagahanga Girls, Rich Folk, Death Eaters To Be, Bullies, Outcasts, the listahan goes on.

Another thing: Twilight does not have love. Bella does not pag-ibig Edward. She would never have even looked twice at him if he weren't oh so gorgeous. It is pure lust. Same goes for Edward. If she didn't smell so wonderful, do you think he would have cared? If he could read her thoughts, he would be repulsed. As for the whole Imprinting thing? It is an excuse, an easy way out, a way for Meyer to make Jacob fall in "love" with Renesmee without looking like a pedophile. In Harry Potter, there are all different types of love. There is romantic pag-ibig (Ron and Hermione are the cutest couple on the face of the earth! And there's failed relationships, look at Harry and Cho. Haha), pag-ibig of mga kaibigan (Harry would die for his friends, and they would do the same for him), unrequited pag-ibig (if you weren't touched sa pamamagitan ng Snape's story, you must be heartless!), motherly pag-ibig (Lily dying to save Harry, Molly Weasley killing Bellatrix for her pag-ibig of Fred and Ginny), and all sorts of things. If you want to talk romance, though, let me tell you; Ron and Hermione fell in pag-ibig slowly through the years. They didn't know each other for, what, one week? then say "Oh, I am eternally in pag-ibig with you! You are my one true love!" They are in love, not overpowered lust.

Let's talk about Bella, now shall we? She is the definiiton of a Mary Sue. Self insert is evident to an extreme, and she is supposedly "flawless". All of the characters pag-ibig her, despite all the horrible things she does to them. I mean, how can Jacob still like her after all the things she's done to that poor guy? She is also a slut. She goes off and kisses a guy who isn't her boyfriend, leading him on every other page, then doesn't hesitate to dump him and break his heart, even though she "cares" so much about him. She abuses all of her friends. Can you really blame Jessica for not wanting to be mga kaibigan with Bella anymore? She saw that Bella just uses her mga kaibigan when it benefits her, then dumps them like trash, not caring one bit about them or any of their problems or anything, and still has the nerve to expect them to remain loyal to her, and if they don't, they are "bad friends". Abusive, much? She is also extremely selfish and unbelievably whiny. She complains about how "horrible" her life is, when really, she is just extremely ungrateful. All she does is whine, that is, when she isn't rambling endlessly about how pretty her boyfriend is.

Now I want to talk about Edward. People say they pag-ibig him so much, but let me ask you this: how many fans would still pag-ibig him this much if he were ugly? I would say, oh, maybe .001% at best? Of course, Bella wouldn't even spare a segundo glance at him if he weren't supermodel gorgeous, so there would be no story, but that is beside the point. Edward is also abusive. I know, he's never hit her. I mean he is emotionally abusive. He toys with her emotions to get his way. He dominates her, controlling who she can and cannot see, what she can and cannot do, where she can and cannot go. He is also a stalker. He follows her around and breaks into her house at night to watch her sleep. That is just creepy. Of course, he is hot, so that must mean he's in pag-ibig with her, right? Um, not so much.

Let's get Harry Potter back into this. I would like to point out that Harry Potter, unlike Twilight, actually has a plot. It lasts through all the books, the main theme being to defeat Voldemort and his followers, with subplots in each book. In fact, there are sub-subplots, even sub-sub-subplots. There are details that seem minor or irrelevant that all turn out to be of extreme importance in the end. Twilight? What is the main plot of the first book? Talking about how beautiful your boyfriend is is NOT a plot. The whole thing with James and his "dangerous" clan seems to be madami of an "oh, whoops! I forgot to add a plot! Let's just throw this thing in quickly, and we'll call it a plot." Very quick and lazy, with little detail and a resolution that comes far too easily. segundo book? She sulks around for the majority of the book, and the plot seems, once again, to be a forgotten thing thrown in quickly. In Eclipse, you could argue that there is a plot. Victoria wants revenge on Bella and Edward. The problem is, the plot goes nowhere until the very end, where it is, once again, resolved way too easily. The Cullens went into their big fight knowing they would all come out alive and well, and that is exactly what happened. No risks, no sacrifice. In Breaking Dawn, there were two different plots. The first was having the baby, Renesmee, who shouldn't have existed in the first place. The susunod plot is extremely disappointing. They build up to the huge climax, and what happens? Their ultimate battle ends in conversation. The Cullens don't give up anything, and it's way too much of a happily ever after. Pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

Let's address the anti-feminism of Twilight. It is extremely anti-feminist. Bella can't do ANYTHING for herself, and she always need Edward or Jacob coming to the rescue. Edward and Jacob are both extremely strong and fast so they can control her. Why are the female Bampira unable to have babies, while male Bampira can if they mate with a human? Besides being illogical, it's anti-feminist. Even Alice, who's supposed to be a good fighter, depends completely on her abilities. If they are taken away, she has nothing. The male vampires, however, can still fight without their powers. Also, she goes into super-depressed mode when her boyfriend dumps her. That's understandable. But how long does she stay there? Over four months. That is ridiculous. And the only thing to raise her out of her depression is having another guy obsessing over her. What is this constant need for a man in her life? Even on her free time, what does she do? She happily cooks and cleans for her father, who sits on the sopa watching football, drinking beer, cleaning his gun. How is this not anti-feminist? In Harry Potter, however, Hermione is very capable, and Harry and Ron would not have made it to the end of the series if it weren't for her. They depend on her just as much as she depends on them. Ginny is also a very capable girl. She can fight for herself, she doesn't need a man constantly looking after her. In fact, all the Harry Potter females are just as capable as the males are. Also, when Ron leaves Hermione in Deathly Hallows, she becomes very upset, but she moves on. She never really gets over it, but she moves on with her life. She realizes it is not the end of the world, and if she hadn't gotten her act together, Voldemort may not have been defeated. When Harry leaves Ginny, she is upset, but doesn't go suicidal about it. She moves on, she continues to treat her mga kaibigan right, she moves on.

One final note now. I want to go over messages. In Twilight, there are no good messages. If there are, please name one and then use evidence! Do not just make claims. But as of this point, I have not found one single good message of Twilight. And no, "stalking is hot" does NOT count as a good message, and neither does "if you do not have a man in your life, there is not point in living". "Pedophilia is okay as long as you have an excuse" doesn't count either. In Harry Potter, there are good messages weaved in all over the place. There are messages about what fear can do to people, how fear can easily turn into hatred or ignorance. There are messages about how pag-ibig is the most powerful thing in the world. There are messages about friendship, about life, about death, about working hard, about greed, about loss, and especially about growing up.

I could go on, but I'm getting tired now. I think I've made my point. Remember, this is just my opinion. I backed up my opinion with evidence so that it could become a strong argument, and anyone is free to disagree. Just no hating please. HARRY POTTER RULES!!!!!!!! XD
posted by HecateA
So lately I've been thinking of the Cullens and how damn rich they are. And then I stop and go, wait a minute, how is that possible?

So I am going to compare the Cullen expenses and the average normal-people expenses in this chart.

Expense Normal People The Cullens

-Food X X*
-Clothing X X*
-Shelter X X
-Gas X X
-Inssurance X
-Electricity X X
-Running water X ?*
-Heating/cooling X
-School supplies X X
-Blood X
-At tahanan
Medical supplies
and medicine X X*
-Private island X*
and its maintenance X
-Cottage or
campground, etc X
-Travel expenses X X*
-Cell phones X X
-Useless Twilight
merchandise X
-Lunch money...
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posted by rangarajvignesh
The World is flat!
    Well, I know you tanong my sanity, now. Obviously, the world is round and that’s a proven fact, from the moment Galileo stepped out of his ship. And now, there’s a tanong again. Is the World really round? I hate that word, really. The word which gives rise to a lot of tanong and seeks for explanations.
    ‘Imagination is madami important than knowledge,’ sinabi a wise man once. And, it’s true. Well, you need not be aware of the complications of four-dimensional puwang fabric to accept this theory. What all you need to...
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posted by emilykuru
BELLA sisne _ part 1

Ummm…. What can i say about her………….er…….nothing interesting but i can ipakita u guys why she spoils the story


1.she is a hopeless char.she degrades herself,

2.she is stupid 2 leave her mom and come to forks when she begs her 2 comeback.

ok! if u guys say that it was because of the pag-ibig for renee then it is totally wrong.

which daughter who loved her mom so much as to go 2 the place which she considers
hell just for her moms happiness would forget all about renee when jumping off a cliff to hear edwards voice.
doesnt she always worry in the story that she has...
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posted by harrypotterbest
There is, in the world, a girl called Z-----. madami commonly known on this website as Best, that is the name that shall be used for this anti story.
Now, when best was 11 years old, she had read all the Harry Potter books, and loved them. I’m talking about waiting for her Hogwarts acceptance letter to come and carving wands. She truly loved the series. In 2009, she went to a wedding. Her aunt there had read the Harry Potter books, except for the last one. She also had a cousin there, who was a huge tagahanga of Twilight. Now, at that time, best hadn’t read Twilight. Her aunt was also a huge fan...
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posted by harrypotterbest
As Edward and Harry settled the final means of the battle, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny had a talk.
“Who wrote this rubbish?” asked Ron. “Sparkle in the sun, battle with debate, they don’t even drink proper blood!”
Hermione, as usual, was the one to answer. “Ron, everyone knows Stephanie Meyer wrote this ‘rubbish.’ She’s not a very good writer, according to The Daily Prophet, and for once I agree with them,” Hermione rolled her eyes. “At least OUR writer, the brilliant J K Rowling, didn’t make US sparkle in the sun. What nonsense!”
“Do you know where this Meyer person...
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I'm tired of repeating myself and other HP fans repeating themselves constantly so here is my opinion on why Harry Potter is better. So you don't think I'm being biased, let me tell you: I read Harry Potter when I was 5 and have been a tagahanga since (and that shuts down the comment that little kids can't read it sa pamamagitan ng the way) and when I was 13, I read Twilight (before the bandwagon) and loved it. Then just recently, I got off the Twilight High. So I know how it is to have liked Twilight and to like Harry Potter.

First, we can look at the authors. JK Rowling is the epitome of Rag to Riches. She started...
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posted by NataliaLidia
i persenally dont like ether series and heres why!!!

books
twilight
1) i am a reel vampire and i do not sparkl!!! stephanie shud have dun her reasearch before she wrote a book about vampires!!!
2) bella is a bad roll model!!!
4) edwerd is abusiv!!!
5) its unrealistic!!!
6) its badly writen!!!
7) edwerd is describd to much!!! it gets boring!!!
8) its boring overall!!!

harry potter
1) its not relatble!!!
2) its made for kids!!!
3)harry always beets te bad guy!!! he never looses!!!
4) harry gets away wit everything in skool!!!
5) they hav bad frends!!! ron leaves nd dosnt stay wit harry when peeps make fun of him!!!
6) its boring!!!
7) snape keeps his job even tho he bullys students nd is a deth eater!!!
8) dumbledoor doesnt reely care about harry!!! he leaves him at da durslys even tho they are abusiv!!!

movies
both pelikula hav bad actors nd the filmers didnt follows the boks the way they were suposed to!!!
posted by HaleyDewit
Bella
My name is Bella and there’s something I need to tell
I’m dating this cute vampire, he’s just hot as hell
He’s fascinated sa pamamagitan ng my none existing mind
And I fall apart whenever I stare in those liquid topaz eyes

Edward
My name is Edward and there’s something I need to say
Bella’s gonna freak when she finds out I’m gay
But I can clearly understand what she sees in me
Because have you ever met someone this perfectly

Bella
I used to live in Phoenix, but now moved to this rainy place
I keep whining about it and I always have the same expression on my face
I’m just a little girl who’s helpless...
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Okay. I know what you are all thinking. Oh no not another Harry Potter vs. Twilight artikulo but yes I am making one because I can. I just want my opinion to be heard. So first off let me listahan the reasons why children, teens and adults can pag-ibig Harry Potter and the good messages that Harry Potter gets across. Harry Potter first of all teaches people about the very special bond between people called friendship. Harry, Hermione and Ron are a perfect example of friendship. They are all with Harry until the very end like they promised. They risk their lives for each other and even though they fight,...
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1. sumali an orchestra.
[i] You're inside, anyway.....

2. sumali an opera.
He has a good voice...right?

3. Go to a tanning salon.
Who wants to be pale all their life?

4. Leave home.
You're a hundred and something and STILL living with your parents. How does that feel?

5. Travel.
Yeah, the sparkling thing pops that bubble a bit, but what are parasols for?

6. Discover...SUNSCREEN.
It protects you from the sun. Shocking, eh?

7. Begin a knitting business.
Creativity is key. You can still stay inside, and make money. Plus, you make mga kaibigan with the rest of the sweet little old people in the knitting club.

8.Start...
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I'm adressing the rabid Twilight fans if they would listen. I'm also adressing the common fans of both sides of this debate.

There are some things one may and may not do in a formal pagtatalo unless one wants to look like - pardon the language - a freaking donkey.

Nr 01: One may not argue against the debaters points sa pamamagitan ng attacking him or her. This is called argumentum ad hominem and is a fallacy. For example: If I am to argue that free elections is wrong and states that the arguer is an imbecile that does not deserve the right to vote, then I have committed a severe personal attack and will be frowned...
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posted by Athiya
Many of you might have noticed that the golden trio from Harry Potter (Harry, Ron, and Hermione) had always been paired up to fight with the not-so-golden trio of Twilight (Edward, Jacob, and Bella). Now, XDRoseLuvsHP had pointed out a great deal on why HP trio would win against the Twilight's (you can find it link), so I figured perhaps it's time for the villains to battle.

My first thought was off course, James and Voldemort; but then, it didn't seem fair on the Twilight side. James was not a very good villain; his character was poorly underdeveloped and his powers weren't very outstanding...
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This is a (long) rebuttal to KatiiCullen94's argument, the pamagat of which is in is article's title. (Though you've probably all seen that sa pamamagitan ng now.) I haven't included her points in this, so it will be necessary to read her artikulo first.

1. The majority of people in this world cannot relate to Bella. Tell me, how many people can go to a new school and automatically be the prettiest and most popular girl there? How many girls can say that they have FIVE males lusting after them?

Bella does care for people other than herself - her boyfriend. That's it. She was perfectly happy to hurt her father...
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This is my last artikulo and as you may know I never really came here to argue, just to figure out what was going on in Twilight-Haters heads.


Bella- Whiny and Moany ?
Everyone says that Bella is so whiney and the point is so what if she ? I am sure if we went into your heads ,you would be as moany as her. She complains about the attention she is recieving from boys. I would too it would totally creep me out if suddenly I moved to a new school and everybody likes me.
The friend problem: Jessica is not a good friend after being to 9 schools so far I have met people like this and only can I comment...
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posted by DivyaHarry
Firstly, this is not my article. I found it over the internet and pasted it here because I find it really hard to believe that there are people like this in the world who are completely ignorant or just plain stupid.

The e-mail was apparently from Kayla Patterson, a die hard Twilight/Taylor Lautner tagahanga upset about Universal Pictures ripping off the werewolf idea from Twilight.

To whom this may concern:

This movie was a complete waste and I feel that it offends ALL Twilight fans around the world, that including myself. For one, it was a COMPLETE remaking of the lobo Pack from the Twilight Saga:...
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Hmm... this could take a while. Haha, I have a lot of reasons for my strong dislike of Twilight. Before I start, I'd just like to explain that I was once a Twilight fan, so I've read all the books and stuff, but I just can't stand it anymore. Therefore, I can give a madami complete explanation of my views. Sorry if it's really ridiculously long.

First reason I hate Twilight: the media. Twilight, in all honesty, isn't a great book. I have read worse books (though not many... Twilight was pretty bad). However, if Twilighters and Twilight artikulo and such weren't all "OMG ITS THE MOST AMAZING SERIES...
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Voldemort is notorious for his fear of death. To avoid death, he is willing to kill innocent people and destroy his very soul.

Now, everyone with any sense knows that Bella is a Mary Sue, and Stephenie Meyer desperately wants to be Bella. I even personally know quite a few Twilight fans who realize and accept this. And what does Bella want? She wants to become a vampire.

Here is some commonly known knowledge about Bampira (according to Meyer):

-Kill innocents for survival
-Practically immortal
-Possibly lose their souls, though this is not known for sure

We see Voldemort killing innocents for survival....
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Okay now I will begin off with something that has really begin to get on my nerve. How Twilight fans write out their artikulo on why they like Twilight. Not just artikulo other things too. I will give you and example of one: "For people.....blah blah blah." Like these. Who are they directing these too exactly? I know some the pamagat says it, but they expect only those sort of people to respond. Pff yeah right. I see that kind of pamagat I go in and see what kind moronic things they have to say.

Most Twilight fans I see on this site lack the skills in proper grammar. Okay first if you ever want...
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This artikulo was actually wriiten sa pamamagitan ng an ex-twilighter(iloveyoudarling), not me, and i dont like the way she wrote it, cuz it is kinda rude, but i posted it so that maybe some twilighters here could consider giving harry potter a chance because the artikulo proves that even though you pag-ibig twilight there COULD be a better book out there:
Dear Twilight fans,

I was you one day. Addicted to Twilight and couldnt ever stop pagbaba it even if i had already read it 4 times. But trust me on this one will you. READ ANOTHER BOOOK!!! AFTER YOU DO THAT TWILIGHT WILL SEEM LIKE A STUPID ROMANCE STORY.

After...
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