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Does Voldemort remind you of Adolph Hitler in madami than one way?

Both want blood purity.
Both had followers
Both tried to create the perfect family
Both looked down on the inferior ( jews/muggles)and tried to get rid of them.
 Does Voldemort remind you of Adolph Hitler in madami than one way?
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I have gotten made fun of at school for making the connection...
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But's it's a very intelligent tanong you posted here ! The thread was excellent. As for those that poked fun at you, that means they didn't read HP, which is not an issue per se. Worse, they do not know History and that particular part of our History. That's much madami serious as they can fall prey to this kind of ideology. To ignore the past and History is a surefire way to condemn oneself to live it again and again...
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^^^ throw them off again and talk about the KKK and Death Eaters. >:)
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LadyNottingham said:
Jo had also intended to call the mangangain kamatayan the "Knights of Walpurgis", which is an obvious reference to the Night of Walpurgis, which occurs on Beltaine. The Nazis were litterally fascinated sa pamamagitan ng everything madami or less connected to knighthood. The final battle at Hogwarts took place at this moment (May 1st and 2nd).

BTW, Hitler died on Walpurgis night (April 30).


I found this on Mugglenet about the Knights of Walpurgis : "Walpurgis Night (in German folklore) the night of April 30 (May Day's eve), when witches meet on the Brocken mountain and hold revels with the Devil..." (Oxford Phrase & Fable)

Voldemort claimed blood purity but he was himself a half-blood. Some historians say that Hitler would have had Jewish blood.

If one read the HP saga at a deeper level, there are allusions to the similarities between the two. Jo's books are great because they ipakita that all this racism is but crap, whatever its name.
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WOw, best answer. That's really interesting.
Vixie79 posted sa loob ng isang taon na ang nakalipas
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Yeah, I agree with that. Sometimes that's all it takes.
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SiriusSeverus said:
Yeah I guess...

Although (if I remember correctly), the one that's supposed to be linked to Hitler is actually Grindlewald...
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Sprinter23 said:
huh, never thought if it that way. But I guess he kind of does. idk, I think Voldemort's madami amiable though. I'd rather be mga kaibigan with Voldemort than Hitler.
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MithrasPotter said:
I think it they definitely have a lot in common, but not intentionally. I remember pagbaba (sorry, can't cite it!) that Jo sinabi she was shocked when she looked into the Nazi's tactics of persecuting, subjugating, and getting rid of the "inferiors," and in their methods of getting people to go along with it, and found that they were extremely similar to the Death Eaters. She unconsciously wrote the death eaters use the Nazis' methods, something I'm sure was very disturbing to realize. Anyway, Voldemort and Hitler definitely have a great deal in common. My tanong is - which one is madami evil?

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Here's the quote from Jo-
"I saw [Nazi heritage charts] in the Holocaust Museum in Washington when I had already devised the 'pure-blood', 'half-blood' and 'Muggle-born' definitions, and was chilled to see that the Nazis used precisely the same warped logic as the Death Eaters. A single Jewish grandparent 'polluted' the blood, according to their propaganda."

-It's also interesting to note that in the movies, there are clear references to Nazism and fascism, such as the giant picture of gawing kalokohan in the ministry, and also the costuming choices for Runcorn and the ministry guards in the seventh movie.
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Ugh, after seeing a presentation from a Holocaust victim and going through the museum? I'd say Hitler was way madami evil.
LinaHarrow posted sa loob ng isang taon na ang nakalipas
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We feel Hitler was way madami evil because he was a real man from real history. There's also a tanong of scale : Nazis killed millions of people, Voldemort only a few hundreds. Which do not remove anything from the uglynes of his acts. Well, I guess that a few hundreds in a small community such as the wizarding community is a great number too, that's true.
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LinaHarrow said:
Awesome picture. x)

Yes. They're both ugly and controlling.
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They actually have a ton in common though, if you ask me.
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Matsy23 said:
if you put it that way then yes he does O_O
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unholytrinity said:
Since i first foud out what voldemord really wanted, i totally linked his attitudes with Adolf hittler, So my answer would be yes, Theyre actitude is alike. Maybe not.. Linked sa pamamagitan ng bloodlines.
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GublerFlu said:
Deffo! But without the moustache! hahahaha Voldy with a tash!!
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 Deffo! But without the moustache! hahahaha Voldy with a tash!!
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lol XD
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TheDon0603 said:
There's definitely a big similarity. However, I think Hitler was much madami charismatic and persuasive. Voldemort ruled mainly through fear, besides his Death Eaters which included maybe forty shown in the books. This is why I don't like him much.
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who voldy or hitler?
luv_warriorcatz posted sa loob ng isang taon na ang nakalipas
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Voldemort
TheDon0603 posted sa loob ng isang taon na ang nakalipas
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Voldy can be charismatic. And I think at times maybe all times Hitler was a loose Canon Douchebag even with his followers.
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justliveitlive said:
I don't think anyone/anything should ever be compared to Hitler.
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Oh..I know. Hitler was Evil Incarnated. But...its Voldy. LOL. - please send this message to the tsaa Party about " you know who"
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your message not mine.
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theblondegirl said:
I think that there are a lot of similarities between Hitler and Voldemort's actions, but when it comes to their characters they are quite different.
According to people who have met Hitler or worked for him (one of his secreteries for instance, who's been interviewed many times and been in several documentaries) he was a very average-type person in real life. His manner of speaking was calm and he had a funny accent, and he was usually very polite.
Voldemort has been portrayed as a complete psychopath that even his own followers were afraid of, and who acted very unpredictably. He often did the "dirty work" himself sa pamamagitan ng killing people, most notably Harry's parents and Harry himself. He also seems to live for causing destruction and even though he thrieved for the pure-blood policy, it seemed to be just an excuse to kill and torture people; mainly, to have people fear him. I don't think he ever would've stopped, no matter what sort of an overrule he gained over the world.
Hitler preferred to keep his hands clean and made others do the dirty deeds for him - he was just giving orders and stayed away from the gore. He had personal relationships that weren't linked to his political agenda, most notably with his wife who was sa pamamagitan ng no means a politically active person herself. In his twisted mind he probably truly felt he was doing a favour to the world and that after his dream of the new world was done he could just enjoy his retirement on some tabing-dagat with a lot of blonde Aryan people mixing up cocktails for him.
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That's what I was saying. You sinabi it much better than me though.
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I would add that Voldemort used the pureblood supremacy to rally as many followers as possible for his rise to power. These followers were rich most of the time. It was power vs. wealth in sort of. An opportunist. He began recruiting in Slytherin because his theories had found a bigger ear there.
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I agree, Voldemort started out as an opportunist. I am not sure about the connection between blood purity and welth though. Perhaps a lot of the old pureblood families were also rich, but it seems like his ideology also attracted a lot of the poorer folks, too - possibly because they could compensate their lack of wealth sa pamamagitan ng gaining power. Snape is a good example of this. I've also always thought that Pettigrew didn't come from a wealthy family although I am not sure if its ever mentioned. I think there's old rich families who wanted to keep up the traditions and people who lusted after the power Voldemort represented that were the first ones to sumali him.
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No, Voldemort got his death eaters to do the dirty work. He only killed those he felt were a real threat (Harry, Harry's parents, Amelia Bones, etc.)
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LifesGoodx3 said:
Yes, Voldemort reminds me of Hitler in the ways you listed and one more. Hitler wanted the "perfect race" which would all have blond hair and blue eyes, when he had neither of those. Voldemort wanted only the pure-bloods to survive, and he was a half-blood himself.
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LoopyLuna96 said:
Oh yeah, definately. We're doing Germany 1919-39 in History now, and some of the similatrities are uncanny. It's even thought that Hitler had a Jewish Grandfather, and Voldemort had a Muggle dad. It's quite eerie, really.
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i-am-mariella said:
Yes!
I think that's the point, the parallels to war. Everything reminded me of the world wars - from Potterwatch, which was exactly like the old British radio stations, to the posters and code names and stuff.
The "follower" thing too - the Nazis and Death Eaters were both very bloodthirsty; and both had propaganda (the swastika as opposed to the Dark Mark, and the fear both of them conjured at the time of the war, in real life and the Wizarding World respectively.)
Voldemort's prejudice and bigotry was certainly a connection to Hitler. But he is portrayed as being completely pyschopathic, whereas Hitler was truly evil but, like someone pointed out, quite average in personality. He detested blood sports and animal cruelty, etc.
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It's actually quite sad that Hitler condemned blood sports and animal cruelty but not slaughtering millions of people because of their race. It just shows how twisted his idology was; thinking that even mga hayop were madami important than the people he considered inferior.
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That's exactly how I feel. I really don't know how he could believe that.
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Vixie79 said:
I see a lot of similarities to Voldemort and Hitler. I also see similarities of Voldemort and Charles Manson. Both kind of the same but Hitler was on a larger scale and he had madami power than Manson of course. Anyone to actually make fun of you for that obviously haven't read the books. Jo has even mentioned it.
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Many totalitarian dictators are psychopaths/sociopaths. Oh, BTW I read some time nakaraan that most of them had very miserable childhood. It's a well known fact that Stalin and Hitler had been regularly beaten when children. Voldemort had not been beaten but he had grew up in an orphanage without pag-ibig (whereas he may have been a child that needed a lot of pag-ibig to grow up normally.)
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simpleplan said:
In a way yes but Hitler him self never killed anyone he had his followers do
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thats iffy isnt it? Or was he really that proud to not lay a hand on his victims- mother effer. I know he eventually/supposably killed himself. ???
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bessmarvin1 said:
I think.Jo herself sinabi that there was a connection between Voldemort and Hitler (I read it somewhere she said.)and the death eaters as the nazis.I definitely think that they resemble.Eg;Voldemort hated muggle-borns and Hitler hated the Jews.It is almost the same.
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PotionsMaster said:
I have thought about it many times before and thought I'd google it. Glad I was not the only one to compare those two:L
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theonlyking said:
No, I don't think they are similar, I mean they're both very evil, but I don't think Voldemort was a racist like that demon. THey have a different hairstyle and Voldemort is cuter hahahahaha
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vylanaga said:
Yes, they are similar, but I've always felt that Voldemort's main goal was immortality rather than pure-blood supremacy. He did not consider his followers, most of whom were elite pure-blood aristocrats, as anything madami than pawns, but he was very good at instigating the various power games that the Death Eaters kept playing to get in his favor. He was actually a very calm, polite person, but of course this is a mask. He was rather soft-spoken. What Voldemort likes is fear. That's why he doesn't settle for joining the ministry, he WANTS people to fear him. I actually thought Voldemort was worse than Hitler. It's not about the body count. Hitler was real, so he would be worse in that sense, but Voldemort is so far gone and not even human that I personally find it difficult to comprehend how someone could destroy thier humanity to that extent. And he's had these ambitions since childhood.
And Voldemort had way madami soldiers under his control than a mere 40 death eaters. He had creatures from all around the world recruited with empty promises of happiness and power, and he did his fair share of brainwashing (Bellatrix, Barty Crouch Jr., Quirrell). His command would range over a few thousand perhaps.
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