BIG OOOOOPS!! That should say 4x15! Sorry!!!

I don't have any doubt she was talking about John and Mary, but I wonder what prompted her to say that. If it is them, it's so great to hear they are together, but I think a lot of us assumed that anyway. :)

maybe but you do make a good point there..and it would be great for them to be together
tessa made dean doubt of so many things..

I just wonder how they're dealing with seeing their sons suffer so much, if they even know?

I'd love to think they are together and watching over their sons, but didn't Mary sort of destroy her self getting rid of the poltergeist in 'Home'? Does that mean she just stopped existing? That the two energies cancelled each other out?
I don't know I might be remembering wrong but that's what I've always thought, its so sad :(
Also John made a deal that sent him to Hell, oh unless when Azazel died the deal was broken.
Ok just changed my mind, I think John is definitely in heaven and watching over his boys, no matter how sad that makes him!

PS this should have a spoiler warning, so if I sound rude, its just I'd have been really upset if I'd read this before I'd sen the episode! :D

No, you didn't sound rude at all, em_em. I hate spoilers so much myself, and I really hope I haven't ruined it for anyone!

I have a general question for everyone; is there a length of time after a show has aired that a pick should be marked as a spoiler? Maybe two or three days? Or if it pertains to a particular episode, should it always be marked just to be safe? (I'm still kinda new to all this! I feel bad! **very sheepish grin**)

i have no idea

Thanks 67impala :D
I know its really hard to know when something should be considered a spoiler or not. I think it depends where you live. If your in the US or Canada then you get to see it weeks or even months before other countries. In Th UK we are only just had 4x8 'Wishful Thinking' aired. and I'm fairly sure other countries won't get season 4 for a while yet! But then there are people like me who watch online as soon as they can. So its really hard to know when to stop labeling it as a spoiler. Because I'm in the UK and don't really know air dates in other countries I go by when its aired over here. But then I don't expect people in the US and Canada to know when that is.
So basically all this rambling mean I just don't know when to really consider something a spoiler :S so I've really been no help sorry!

Wow! I didn't realize there could be that much difference in air dates! Thanks for pointing that out. (I do live in Canada, btw!) I think from now on, if a pick concerns a particular episode, I'll mark it as a spoiler, just in case. You have been a help! :)

Happy to help :D Glad you could decipher my ramblings LOL!
I know the difference in air dates is mad!

Actually, when she says this she's not talking about anyone- she's listing the "lies" that people tell themselves about death. Here's what she says;

Tessa: "I've been around death. From the get go. You know what I see most? Lies. 'He's in a better place.' 'At least they're together now.' You all lie to yourselves, Dean. 'Cos like you said, deep down you're all scared."

well they were talking about john and that dean wanted to go with her, so i guess she was definitely talking about them, who else died that dean knows and love so much??? :D

Fanfly, you're amazing, ;)! I really see the difference when you look at it again in its entire context, and I think you're right on. It was a nice thought that John and Mary were together, and I wonder if the boys ever thought that. But then I do remember them saying that they weren't sure at all where John had gone after he escaped from Hell.

Poor Dean, he really didn't need this on top of everything else. He's being pulled in so many directions!

I thought she said something about liying to eachother about death, thanks ff. Maybe those are the kinds of things DEan tells himself about his parents!

I agree with what fanfly brought up, and about the spolier thing, I think a week is a good amount of time to ensure that everyone has watched the new ep, plenty of time for it to air, be posted and anyone who really wants it to watch it.

Yeh i was confused by this question because i couldn't remember what it was refering too but fanfly's right she was just talking about the lies people tell themselves.

This is a spoiler but it`s OK because I don`t even know who Tessa is :-) I`m from Argentina (South America) and American TV shows are released one month after the original date here, in case you were wondering. This year Warner Channel (that would be your CW, I think) was planning to pospone the whole season till April, but fans were so mad that they had to change their minds... so it`s difficult to decide if a pick is a spoiler or not... I guess that if you don`t include really important facts (like some character dying, which, by the way has just happened to me) it`s OK. After all, when you join a club, you know people will talk about the last events on the shows

No, she's listing the "lies" that people tell themselves when someone dies...although personally I don't think any of the "lies" are lies at all (if that makes sense...I mean, I believe in a better place, and being together and yadda yadda yadda...ok, I'll shut up now :))

why would she be talking about them when she was talking about Cole.