Disney Princess Countdown: Which DP is the most like a Mary Sue? Round 8- Choose the LEAST LIKE a Sue. (Eliminated sa pamamagitan ng comments explaining why!)

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24 fans picked:
Aurora
   42%
Elsa
   33%
Snow White
   8%
Belle
   8%
Rapunzel
   8%
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AudreyFreak picked Aurora:
13. Merida
12. Tiana
11. Anna
10. Jasmine
9. Pocahontas
8. Ariel
7. Cinderella
6. Mulan
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A Mary Sue is an idealized character meant to be the Author Avatar (a character who shares traits with the author like name, appearance, beliefs, etc.) or a self-insert character for the reader to live through. Common Sue traits (note, having a few of these to a degree doesn’t necessarily make a true Sue):

-Exceptionally popular/gets lots of attention, even if the Sue is *supposed* to be shy, anti-social, or socially awkward. People are drawn to her, her advice is great, and she’s trusted fairly quickly.

-Only people who challenge or dislike the Sue are portrayed as mean, stupid, or villainous (and usually get a comeuppance)

-Has no real flaws, or ones that are meant to be endearing and relatable (popular ones are clumsiness, temper, awkward, and stubbornness) that are justified by the author or not even intentionally written. These ‘flaws’ will ONLY help her, never hurt her because she’s always right. (For example, she’s rightfully stubborn against something bad or she loses her temper on someone who deserves it.)

-She doesn’t have to suffer consequences for selfish, bad, or reckless behavior

-Exceptionally beautiful, often with exotic traits like unusual coloring meant to make her stand out physically.

-Magical tools/weapons

-Magical abilities/traits like wings, healing factor, immortality, etc.

-Unusual pet(s)

-is a Woobie (has a tragic past or crappy life) but is still perfect/likable despite what happened.

-Exceptionally talented or good at things the author deems good. The Sue might be bad at things the author considers stupid (girly things like sewing, fashion, etc. but good at “boyish” stuff or things outside the norm like fighting, reading, or weapons are common). Even if the talent/skill isn’t realistic for the time period (like being a scholar or warrior when you're a medieval peasant, for example).

-Usually or always get their way even when she’s actually in the wrong. Never gets called out for being wrong, but if they do, the person calling them out is portrayed as a jerk (see above). If she does do something wrong, she’s remorseful and is instantly forgiven.

-Good fashion sense, even if she’s meant to be a rough-and-tumble type or one who doesn’t care about clothes and is effortlessly attractive. Male characters will often comment on how they like this about her.

-Is a Special Snowflake who “isn’t like the other girls”. Something unique, physically or personality-wise, sets her apart from everyone else.

-A Friend to All Living Things. Animals like her and she loves everyone and forgives their imperfections. Willing to protect or risk all for someone she just met recently.

Summed up, the Mary Sue is meant to stand out from everyone else in a good way and is generally portrayed as the ideal character/role model, very cool and universally relatable, usually. Anyone who dislikes the Sue is the one portrayed as in the wrong.
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AudreyFreak picked Aurora:
While I think Mulan is one of the DPs that has the most Sue traits, I'm rather glad she's finally gone. It was really hard to choose!

Now, Aurora or Elsa. I'd say they're almost equally idealized in their movies, but Elsa is supposed to be more of a role model, and she's a big creator's pet. I have a harder time naming her flaws than most of the DPs. She's a perfectionist and overreacts, but nothing really negative (except I know a few of you think she's mean or selfish). I think the movie kind of overdid how unique and special she is and made her a bit of a perfect martyr. Aurora is rather spineless at times and kinda hurts herself getting her hopes up so high. She also isn't really meant to be seen as a role model. She's very unassuming and not much of a special snowflake, only in her magical heritage. Both are quite attractive, but Aurora's beauty is enhanced by magic.
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ApplesauceDoctr picked Aurora:
Wow, she's made it a long way!
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BKG201 picked Belle:
now mulan is gone, finally, i can vote for someone else.
She is very different and anti-social which makes her less mary sue then everyone else
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3xZ picked Aurora:
It's getting harder, let's see...

Snow White - 6
Aurora - 5
Belle - 5
Rapunzel - 7
Elsa - 12

Belle and Elsa:
-Exceptionally popular/gets lots of attention, even if the Sue is *supposed* to be shy, anti-social, or socially awkward. People are drawn to her, her advice is great, and she’s trusted fairly quickly.

Snow White and Elsa:
-Only people who challenge or dislike the Sue are portrayed as mean, stupid, or villainous (and usually get a comeuppance)

Aurora, Rapunzel, and Elsa:
-Has no real flaws, or ones that are meant to be endearing and relatable (popular ones are clumsiness, temper, awkward, and stubbornness) that are justified by the author or not even intentionally written. These ‘flaws’ will ONLY help her, never hurt her because she’s always right. (For example, she’s rightfully stubborn against something bad or she loses her temper on someone who deserves it.)

Rapunzel and Elsa:
-She doesn’t have to suffer consequences for selfish, bad, or reckless behavior

Snow White, Aurora, Belle, and Elsa:
-Exceptionally beautiful, often with exotic traits like unusual coloring meant to make her stand out physically.

Rapunzel and Elsa:
-Magical abilities/traits like wings, healing factor, immortality, etc.

Elsa:
-is a Woobie (has a tragic past or crappy life) but is still perfect/likable despite what happened.

Rapunzel and Elsa:
-Exceptionally talented or good at things the author deems good. The Sue might be bad at things the author considers stupid (girly things like sewing, fashion, etc. but good at “boyish” stuff or things outside the norm like fighting, reading, or weapons are common). Even if the talent/skill isn’t realistic for the time period (like being a scholar or warrior when you're a medieval peasant, for example).

Elsa:
-Usually or always get their way even when she’s actually in the wrong. Never gets called out for being wrong, but if they do, the person calling them out is portrayed as a jerk (see above). If she does do something wrong, she’s remorseful and is instantly forgiven.

Snow White, Aurora, Belle, and Elsa:
-Good fashion sense, even if she’s meant to be a rough-and-tumble type or one who doesn’t care about clothes and is effortlessly attractive.

Belle and Elsa:
-Is a Special Snowflake who “isn’t like the other girls”. Something unique, physically or personality-wise, sets her apart from everyone else.

Snow White, Aurora, and Rapunzel:
-A Friend to All Living Things. Animals like her and she loves everyone and forgives their imperfections. Willing to protect or risk all for someone she just met recently.

Snow White, Aurora, Belle, Rapunzel, and Elsa:
Summed up, the Mary Sue is meant to stand out from everyone else in a good way and is generally portrayed as the ideal character/role model, very cool and universally relatable, usually. Anyone who dislikes the Sue is the one portrayed as in the wrong.

Oh well, Aurora and Belle have the same points but I choose Aurora because her percentages and comments here are higher than Belle's.
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LightningWhite picked Aurora:
^Soooo agree :3 Except I think Rapunzel is more of a Mary Sue than Elsa. Here I have to add Rapunzel:

Belle and Elsa (and Rapunzel):
-Exceptionally popular/gets lots of attention, even if the Sue is *supposed* to be shy, anti-social, or socially awkward. People are drawn to her, her advice is great, and she’s trusted fairly quickly.

I had a tough time choosing Belle or Aurora. Finally I had to go with Aurora since her status as a princess makes it more understandable if she stands out among people. While Belle is just an ordinary girl but seems to be very special. Besides, I think Belle is a better role model than Aurora.
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manu962 picked Elsa:
Aurora is quite a Mary-sue. How is Elsa a mary-sue? I still don't get that.
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3xZ picked Aurora:
^Do you need me to write it in an article?
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manu962 picked Elsa:
^No thank you. I read your comment above and to me you just misunderstood Elsa. According to you Elsa is what mary-sue means since you think Elsa fit sin all those points, which to me is untrue. I think you're being a bit biased. It's hard to find a character that fints in all those points. Elsa is definitely not you of those.
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AudreyFreak picked Aurora:
actually someone already has: link

Elsa is a woobie, portrayed as always right (except for not believing in herself, which is a pretty common Disney thing), is a huge Creator's Pet, has magic powers and unusual looks, etc.
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