This is one Fucked Up world we live in.
The conservatives claim to be a party of freedoms. Yet they contradict themselves sa pamamagitan ng restricting Gay marriage; a freedom in it of itself. “Morally wrong”; ok, sure. It’s not morally wrong if you do it to someone else, I see.
I dispute with these people often.
“They switched the Yes and No around so a bunch of old people would vote for fags to get married.”
I damn near punched that middle schooler through the wall.
(Minnesota and the State Constitutional amendment that failed in the 2012 election cycle.)
I’m 6’4, 240 fucking pounds and I will whoop your ass.
How dare you. How dare you try and tell people how to live their lives. This is what is wrong with the Christian religion. This is why some of my mga kaibigan have left; It is why I am deciding.
I am of the firm belief that It is NOT a choice. You’ve heard it all before. Blah blah; born this way, blah blah blah. Listen to me; a straight man who is for it. Yes; you can be for gay marriage without being gay yourself.
I see it as a human freedom. Look at it this way:
If you don’t worship the Christian faith sa pamamagitan ng choice; it means nothing. It is worthless. Let people regulate themselves. For example; let’s talk about smoking. I can smoke, or not smoke. But that is my decision. If someone tells me I can’t; and I don’t smoke; it means nothing, because I would do it if I could. The segundo that restriction or rule is dropped; I’m up to 10 packs a day. Let me do what I want; I don’t hurt anyone if I smoke in my apartment (In which I live alone or with another smoker) nor is it your job to regulate me; it’s MY job. If that even makes sense outside my head.
You claim to care about; “Wanting to make madami people.”
Ok; dipshit; so then any Sterile man or woman should not be allowed to get married; because it’s about reproduction. Last time I checked; it was something like 1 in 8 or 9 people are sterile. So those people can’t get married now. They are madly in pag-ibig with someone else; a nice man or girl; who they would be very happy with; but, Not Reproductive! No marriage! Makes sense.
It is about reproduction in just ONE issue. Teen pregnancy is an issue, isn’t it? And since you don’t believe in abortions (And neither do I), the mother is forced to raise the child. On a High School-dropout’s salary.
Or, she could give the child for adoption to a gay couple; and give two men or women a child to raise and love; which they so obviously desire.
You then go on to say that the gay couple would fuck up the kid psychologically.
1 in 10 women will experience sexual abuse sa pamamagitan ng the time they are 18. The exact numbers are unknown; some don’t tell anyone. About 33% of abuse survivors are male. This is done in both cases upwards of 90% of the time sa pamamagitan ng HETEROSEXUAL men. (Yes; straight men rape boys; because they know the boy won’t tell out of fear; of homophobia; or accusations of being gay themselves. Same analogy here with two straight women; albeit not nearly as common. See: Michael Jackson, Jerry Sandusky)
I think this sexual abuse point needs further explanation. Of the boys interviewed who had been sexually abused; 10 out of 11 of the people who abused them were known to be straight. Totally straight. Why do they do this then? Because they’re attracted to the FEMININE things in young boys; Smooth skin, Short legs, any number of perverted things. If you look for child molesters among gay people; you will miss 10/11 of the guilty parties: Because they either are straight and in a happy heterosexual relationship; or they are lying to hide from your scrutiny. Nevertheless:
All types of parents will cause psychological harm; in fact; ALL PARENTS, no matter how perfect will hurt their child in some way; it’s what makes us unique. You can’t restrict access to progeny based off of who the parents choose to love.
If it’s about reproduction, explain this:
5 US presidents have been happily married with no kids; Including George Washington. Why is that? If you’re not planning on reproducing, then you should not be married; yes?
“It’s against the bible.” Whether you come out and say this or not; we all know that this is your motivation.
So is cigarette smoking, drinking, adultery, eating pork; and hoarding masses of money from the poor. But I don’t see you banning those; In fact; You republicans (At least the ones in office) are the people that do these things, along with other things that are stated in the bible.
It seems to me that you point out the sins in others, but not yourself. Newt Gingrich had 3 marriages; when he divorced his first two wives, it was when they came down with severe illnesses. He cheated on them beforehand. That’s not sinful, but two men loving each other is? I see... I see something... little Pagsulat in my head... let me read it off here.
“you... are ... full of... shit... GOP...”
Well that sure says it all.
All of your arguments boil down to the one stupid, outdated and irrelevant fact that the Bible says, in one passage, that it is wrong.
Let’s break down why your Bible rationale is those three things: Stupid, Outdated and Irrelevant.
-There have been over 10 translations of the bible; from one language to the next. (Hebrew-Greek-Latin-Italian-German-All stages of English) Might there have been a Translation Error at some point? If it isn’t mentioned elsewhere in the bible, it is suspect to me.
-You claim to be in support of it for THIS issue; but when it comes time to tax the rich, or distribute wealth to the lower classes, and other godly things; you turn it down. Paul Ryan vetoed the proposition to refund the federal flood reimbursement fund in the wake of Hurricane Sandy. (Wow. Just wow. There was no bullshit; there was no pork-barrel spending: This was a half page bill for a a funding of the federal flood reimbursement fund to help those who had Nawawala it all in hurricane sandy; and you fucking blew it.)
If you are SO FOR the bible; tell me then, what would Hesus (Or any other human being who wasn’t an asshole) do?
It’s becoming madami of an issue; and you never brought it up until it became an issue; and then, all of a sudden; it’s a HUGE problem and it’s always been this way and blah blah blah. “Gee, pastor; I’m sure glad there are no homosexuals here in Salem, Massachusetts. Say, let’s burn some witches.”
-First Amendment: Freedom of Religion; no state religion. This is ENTIRELY a religion argument; don’t get me started.
-The Declaration says that we all have Inalienable rights; to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit Of Happiness. Just... you’re seriously trying to refute that. Wow. Well; I suppose that the Pursuit of happiness for you is denying people happiness; so I guess that WOULD be supported. Very christian of you; to deny people the right to live a happy life.
-Amendment 9 of the bill of rights says, and quoting: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained sa pamamagitan ng the people.”
Simply put; If it’s not stated as illegal; it is legal and your right to do it. You do not need a sign to exist that says; “You may walk your dog down this street” for you to be able to do it.
-Amendment 10 says that any rights not possessed sa pamamagitan ng the federal government are ibingiay to the states or the people.
*Cough cough therighttomarrywhomeveryouwant cough*
Why are we still arguing; are you that dumb? It says it in the Declaration AND the Bill Of Rights; In 3 different amendments.
If you want to make a madami “Godly society” (Which is NOT your job!), then explain this:
When Massachusetts legalized it in 2004, Divorce rates fell sa pamamagitan ng 30% that susunod year. When Alaska put a state-constitutional ban on it in 1998; divorce rates rose sa pamamagitan ng over 10%. So; wouldn’t this decrease the divorces in the country? (Yet another thing “Ungodly” and much madami ungodly than Gay Marriage that is legal.)
The Slippery slope argument: If gay people can get married, then why can’t 3 people, or 10; or anyone to anything?
Thus equating Gayness with a whimsical desire for something unconventional; as opposed to a state of being, and who you are.
Good work. That’s not stupid at all.
Let me tell you something. If we, as a society, could be married to whatever or whomever we want; we would still do it on a preferential basis. If getting married to inanimate objects was legal (Which is NOT our intent! It is NOT a slippery slope! This is satirical example) and; let’s say my brother married a lawnmower... I sure as hell don’t want to marry a lawnmower. I see a pretty girl over there, and marry her instead (After 7 years of Get-To-Know-You dating). I don’t go through the logical conundrum; “Well, I like girls, but; marrying lawn mowers is just SO IN right now... ahhh, what do I do...?”
People would still marry people of the opposite sex. Proof: the states of Washington, Iowa, Massachusetts, New York, Vermont, Connecticut, Maryland, Maine and the district of Columbia all have gay marriage legalized; and people are still marrying people of the opposite sex there. mga sanggol are still being born; in 16 years, there will be just as many; if not more; new drivers licenses from that state.
Imagine the economic benefits;
Two super-fabulous gay men; with two disposable incomes; Imagine how much that could help the economy!
Airfare for the relatives in and out, the honeymoon, the food, the flowers, the ceremony performer, the planner, entertainment, the rent, hotel stays for the guests, Restaurants and local attractions, Wineries, Breweries and Museums as well as transit and taxis close by; and all of the gifts; All of these would feel the economic impacts!
If they did not have the right to have that giant, $250,000 ceremony; they might keep that money in their bank account in the Cayman Islands (Which you politicians all do so that it is not taxed); and not spend it, rather just sit on it while small communities and large cities alike suffer from the lack of business. This is hurtful to your economic system; of less government spending.
News Flash, Republicans: The world is becoming madami liberal.
In the 2012 election cycle; you Nawawala 12 senate seats, the majority in the House, the Presidency; 4 openly gay congressmen added, 1 bisexual woman congressman added. You lost. Badly. You know why? Because you’re all stuck in 1982; where you’re unwilling to compromise, or ilipat a half inch on the subject of your precious bible; which has no place on Capitol hill.
As Bob Dylan sang; in The Times They Are A Changin’; “Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call/Don't stand in the doorway, Don't block up the hall/For he that gets hurt will be he who has stalled/There's a battle outside and it is ragin'/It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls
/For the times they are a-changin'.
The times they are a-changin’. I was a conservative. I was. You drove me out with your incredible stupidity and callousness.
I will fight for the ones who pag-ibig and care. The Gay men and Women who pag-ibig eachother very much but can’t commit that in a court of law.
Good work. Everyone who has met me tells me I have potential. And you Nawawala me, Conservatives. You successfully Nawawala a Upper-middle class, White male who fully believes in the Catholic religion (Not the church!) and who would do anything to stop the abortion rates in the country. You Nawawala me. This just shows how little you care about getting new members; or how little you are willing to ilipat on capitol hill.
Politics is the art of reaching a deal; a compromise. Well, Conservatives: Compromise fast, because the supreme court WILL pass it. And then the ones who will be rejected and oppressed will be you.
Have a horrible 2016 election cycle!
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