In the 9 months I've been here on Fanpop, I've been ibingiay a view of what Twi-haters are like. Especially over the internet. Of course, most of this hate is directed toward either, the series, the fans, the cast, and characters' redeeming qualities. Most of their 'arguments' are so ridiculous, and can be proven wrong so easily, its irritating. Here are some I've seen:
Edward and Jacob are pedophiles.
First off, a pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.Edward is forever 17. He was never attracted to Bella, sexually. In the beginning, all he felt for Bella was hatred. And at age 17, Bella's choices make her wise beyond her years. She saves her father, sa pamamagitan ng bringing back a painful, but necessary memory. At 18, She protects her baby and chooses to give birth against Edward's wishes to abort it. Bella also starts a war,and is ready to risk her life as a vampire to protect those she loves. She continuously risks her life for love.Bella overcame the major obstacles in her path and fought her way to the place she wanted to be. She's no longer a teenager. She's an adult.
And now onto Jacob.. Jacob is also not a pedophile. Sure, he imprints on Renesmee, but it doesn't go beyond that. All he wants is for her to be happy. That's it.
There are also stages to imprinting, especially if the shape-shifter imprints on a child, or otherwise the imprintee is very young.
1st stage - If the person is young, the shape-shifter will act as an older sibling.
2nd stage - As the person grows older, the shape-shifter will also come to be their best friend.
3rd stage - They become intimate friends. Meaning, their feelings for each other are changing into romantic feelings. (Remember, this stage may or may not happen to the imprintee, but the imprinter will fall in pag-ibig with his imprint. They will not 'see' any other woman or man in a romantic way, at all. Their imprintee is all he/she cares about and he/she will pag-ibig her/him even if those feelings aren't returned.)
4th stage - When the imprintee is old enough, the shape-shifter's feelings grow into romantic/sexual love.The shape-shifter will be at all times very protective and loving to the imprintee.
Bella is a Mary Sue.
Oh, boy..A Mary Sue? Mary Sues are usually called that because they are impossibly beautiful, can do no wrong, and are hopelessly overused characters. In the books, Bella is described as being very plain. She almost always makes mistakes.Most of them..involving love.She's also very reckless and clumsy.She's not rich, or smart, or famous.Basically, a Mary Sue is perfect, a definition that doesn't really suit Bella.The similarity between the reader and Bella does not make her a Mary Sue. Since Bella has faults, and they're mostly listed in the books, she's not a Mary Sue.
Bella and Jacob are necrophiliacs.
A necrophiliac is a person sexually attracted to corpses. A corpse is a dead body. It can't speak,or think. It can't move, or bear children.Since Edward can do all of these, Bella is not attracted to a corpse. And neither is Jacob, because it isn't until the 4th stage of imprinting (see above) that his feelings for Renesmee grow into romantic feelings. And since Renesmee is half-human, she has blood running in her veins.
Bampira can't have children, because blood is needed to have an erection.
Uh, wrong. According to Stephenie Meyer,
"Vampires are physically similar enough to their human origins to pass as humans under some circumstances (like cloudy days). There are many basic differences. They appear to have skin like ours, albeit very fair skin. The skin serves the same general purpose of protecting the body. However, the cells that make up their skin are not pliant like our cells, they are hard and reflective like crystal. A fluid similar to the venom in their mouths works as a lubricant between the cells, which makes movement possible (note: this fluid is very flammable). A fluid similar to the same venom lubricates their eyes so that their eyes can ilipat easily in their sockets. (However, they don't produce tears because tears exist to protect the eye from damage, and nothing is going to be able to scratch a vampire's eye.) The lubricant-venom in the eyes and skin is not able to infect a human the way saliva-venom can. Similarly, throughout the vampire's body are many versions of venom-based fluids that retain a marked resemblance to the fluid that was replaced, and function in much the same way and toward the same purpose. Though there is no venom replacement that works precisely like blood, many of the functions of blood are carried on in some form. Also, the nervous system runs in a slightly different but heightened way. Some involuntary reactions, like breathing, continue (in that specific example because Bampira use the scents in the air much madami than we do, rather than out of a need for oxygen). Other involuntary reactions, like blinking, don't exist because there is no purpose for them. The normal reactions of arousal are still present in vampires, made possible sa pamamagitan ng venom-related fluids that cause tissues to react similarly as they do to an influx of blood. Like with vampire skin—which looks similar to human skin and has the same basic function—fluids closely related to seminal fluids still exist in male vampires, which carry genetic information and are capable of bonding with a human ovum. This was not a known fact in the vampire world (outside of Joham's personal experimenting) before Nessie, because it's nearly impossible for a vampire to be that near a human and not kill her."
Edward is also an incubbus, a vampire with an ability to father children with its hapless prey.
Real Bampira don't sparkle.
Yes they do, at least last time I checked. You see, the cells of Stephenie's Bampira reflect light, giving them their sparkle. She chose to be creative and have them sparkle, rather than turn to ash. People should look at the facts. Sheesh, is it really that hard?
Stephenie Meyer is a shitty author, who can't write to save her own life.
Oh, really? Let's look at the facts shall we?
Since the release of the first novel, Twilight, in 2005, the books have gained immense popularity and commercial success around the world. The series is most popular among young adults; the four books have won multiple awards, most notably the 2008 British Book Award for "Children's Book of the Year" for Breaking Dawn,while the series as a whole won the 2009 Kids' Choice Award for paborito Book.
As of October 2010, the series has sold over 116 million copies worldwide, with translations into at least 38 different languages around the globe.The four Twilight books have consecutively set records as the biggest selling novels of 2008 on the USA Today Best-Selling Books list, and have spent over 235 weeks on the New York Times Best Seller listahan for Children's Series Books. It also previously won 41 awards at the Mtv Movie Awards.
Jacob is not a werewolf.
That's because he isn't. He's a quileuete shapeshifter.Shape-shifters, often mistaken as werewolves, are descended from the ancient spirit warriors of the Quileute tribe. Back then, warriors and chiefs could leave their bodies and wander as spirits, communicate with animals, and hear each other's thoughts. However, a change impacted the tribe members hugely during Taha Aki's leadership and permanently changed their powers to shape-shifting into giant wolves.
When a member of the current generation comes across the scent of vampires, his physique will build before he phases for the first time.
Kristen Stewart can't act.
Then why has she won many awards and has become increasingly famous because of this franchise? Why has she also been named the highest paid actress? She tops this year’s Forbes listahan of highest-paid mga aktres with earnings of $34.5 from May 2011 to May 2012.
Largely thanks to the $12.5 million (plus a share of the profits) she received for each of the two-part The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn films, Stewart dethroned reigning queens Angelina Jolie and Sarah Jessica Parker, who last taon shared the crown with an estimated $30 million each. The two women dropped to numbers four ($20 million) and seven ($15 million), respectively. See? She's made 28 movies. The woman can act.
Bella is a bad example for kids, girls especially, because she jumped off a cliff..
This one is just stupid. It's like, really? It was even stated in the book! She wasn't commiting suicide. She was cliff diving. Recreationally. Duh.
Twilight Sucks.
Yes.Yes it does. It sucks, blood. Duh. Everyone knows that.
Ah, Twilight haters. Some of us really pag-ibig this series, and you come and bash it. If you don't like Twilight, the least you could do is respect it. We're not forcing you to like it.
Edward and Jacob are pedophiles.
First off, a pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.Edward is forever 17. He was never attracted to Bella, sexually. In the beginning, all he felt for Bella was hatred. And at age 17, Bella's choices make her wise beyond her years. She saves her father, sa pamamagitan ng bringing back a painful, but necessary memory. At 18, She protects her baby and chooses to give birth against Edward's wishes to abort it. Bella also starts a war,and is ready to risk her life as a vampire to protect those she loves. She continuously risks her life for love.Bella overcame the major obstacles in her path and fought her way to the place she wanted to be. She's no longer a teenager. She's an adult.
And now onto Jacob.. Jacob is also not a pedophile. Sure, he imprints on Renesmee, but it doesn't go beyond that. All he wants is for her to be happy. That's it.
There are also stages to imprinting, especially if the shape-shifter imprints on a child, or otherwise the imprintee is very young.
1st stage - If the person is young, the shape-shifter will act as an older sibling.
2nd stage - As the person grows older, the shape-shifter will also come to be their best friend.
3rd stage - They become intimate friends. Meaning, their feelings for each other are changing into romantic feelings. (Remember, this stage may or may not happen to the imprintee, but the imprinter will fall in pag-ibig with his imprint. They will not 'see' any other woman or man in a romantic way, at all. Their imprintee is all he/she cares about and he/she will pag-ibig her/him even if those feelings aren't returned.)
4th stage - When the imprintee is old enough, the shape-shifter's feelings grow into romantic/sexual love.The shape-shifter will be at all times very protective and loving to the imprintee.
Bella is a Mary Sue.
Oh, boy..A Mary Sue? Mary Sues are usually called that because they are impossibly beautiful, can do no wrong, and are hopelessly overused characters. In the books, Bella is described as being very plain. She almost always makes mistakes.Most of them..involving love.She's also very reckless and clumsy.She's not rich, or smart, or famous.Basically, a Mary Sue is perfect, a definition that doesn't really suit Bella.The similarity between the reader and Bella does not make her a Mary Sue. Since Bella has faults, and they're mostly listed in the books, she's not a Mary Sue.
Bella and Jacob are necrophiliacs.
A necrophiliac is a person sexually attracted to corpses. A corpse is a dead body. It can't speak,or think. It can't move, or bear children.Since Edward can do all of these, Bella is not attracted to a corpse. And neither is Jacob, because it isn't until the 4th stage of imprinting (see above) that his feelings for Renesmee grow into romantic feelings. And since Renesmee is half-human, she has blood running in her veins.
Bampira can't have children, because blood is needed to have an erection.
Uh, wrong. According to Stephenie Meyer,
"Vampires are physically similar enough to their human origins to pass as humans under some circumstances (like cloudy days). There are many basic differences. They appear to have skin like ours, albeit very fair skin. The skin serves the same general purpose of protecting the body. However, the cells that make up their skin are not pliant like our cells, they are hard and reflective like crystal. A fluid similar to the venom in their mouths works as a lubricant between the cells, which makes movement possible (note: this fluid is very flammable). A fluid similar to the same venom lubricates their eyes so that their eyes can ilipat easily in their sockets. (However, they don't produce tears because tears exist to protect the eye from damage, and nothing is going to be able to scratch a vampire's eye.) The lubricant-venom in the eyes and skin is not able to infect a human the way saliva-venom can. Similarly, throughout the vampire's body are many versions of venom-based fluids that retain a marked resemblance to the fluid that was replaced, and function in much the same way and toward the same purpose. Though there is no venom replacement that works precisely like blood, many of the functions of blood are carried on in some form. Also, the nervous system runs in a slightly different but heightened way. Some involuntary reactions, like breathing, continue (in that specific example because Bampira use the scents in the air much madami than we do, rather than out of a need for oxygen). Other involuntary reactions, like blinking, don't exist because there is no purpose for them. The normal reactions of arousal are still present in vampires, made possible sa pamamagitan ng venom-related fluids that cause tissues to react similarly as they do to an influx of blood. Like with vampire skin—which looks similar to human skin and has the same basic function—fluids closely related to seminal fluids still exist in male vampires, which carry genetic information and are capable of bonding with a human ovum. This was not a known fact in the vampire world (outside of Joham's personal experimenting) before Nessie, because it's nearly impossible for a vampire to be that near a human and not kill her."
Edward is also an incubbus, a vampire with an ability to father children with its hapless prey.
Real Bampira don't sparkle.
Yes they do, at least last time I checked. You see, the cells of Stephenie's Bampira reflect light, giving them their sparkle. She chose to be creative and have them sparkle, rather than turn to ash. People should look at the facts. Sheesh, is it really that hard?
Stephenie Meyer is a shitty author, who can't write to save her own life.
Oh, really? Let's look at the facts shall we?
Since the release of the first novel, Twilight, in 2005, the books have gained immense popularity and commercial success around the world. The series is most popular among young adults; the four books have won multiple awards, most notably the 2008 British Book Award for "Children's Book of the Year" for Breaking Dawn,while the series as a whole won the 2009 Kids' Choice Award for paborito Book.
As of October 2010, the series has sold over 116 million copies worldwide, with translations into at least 38 different languages around the globe.The four Twilight books have consecutively set records as the biggest selling novels of 2008 on the USA Today Best-Selling Books list, and have spent over 235 weeks on the New York Times Best Seller listahan for Children's Series Books. It also previously won 41 awards at the Mtv Movie Awards.
Jacob is not a werewolf.
That's because he isn't. He's a quileuete shapeshifter.Shape-shifters, often mistaken as werewolves, are descended from the ancient spirit warriors of the Quileute tribe. Back then, warriors and chiefs could leave their bodies and wander as spirits, communicate with animals, and hear each other's thoughts. However, a change impacted the tribe members hugely during Taha Aki's leadership and permanently changed their powers to shape-shifting into giant wolves.
When a member of the current generation comes across the scent of vampires, his physique will build before he phases for the first time.
Kristen Stewart can't act.
Then why has she won many awards and has become increasingly famous because of this franchise? Why has she also been named the highest paid actress? She tops this year’s Forbes listahan of highest-paid mga aktres with earnings of $34.5 from May 2011 to May 2012.
Largely thanks to the $12.5 million (plus a share of the profits) she received for each of the two-part The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn films, Stewart dethroned reigning queens Angelina Jolie and Sarah Jessica Parker, who last taon shared the crown with an estimated $30 million each. The two women dropped to numbers four ($20 million) and seven ($15 million), respectively. See? She's made 28 movies. The woman can act.
Bella is a bad example for kids, girls especially, because she jumped off a cliff..
This one is just stupid. It's like, really? It was even stated in the book! She wasn't commiting suicide. She was cliff diving. Recreationally. Duh.
Twilight Sucks.
Yes.Yes it does. It sucks, blood. Duh. Everyone knows that.
Ah, Twilight haters. Some of us really pag-ibig this series, and you come and bash it. If you don't like Twilight, the least you could do is respect it. We're not forcing you to like it.
Llovera, gotas mínimas
Lloverá, de mi boca
Saldrá el mar
No, no, Romeo, no
No, no, me dejes ver
Tu vida fue gestada ya
Lloverá, caudales de agua
Agua lisa
Lloverá, desde mis ojos
No, no, Romeo, no
No, no me dejes ver
Que tu muerte fue gestada ya
Renacimiento
English Translation:
Llovera, minimum drops
Rain, from my mouth
Will the sea
No, no, Romeo, not
No, no, let me see
Your life was articulated and
Rain, water flows
Smooth water
Rain from my eyes
No, no, Romeo, not
No, do not let me see
May your death was articulated and
Renaissance
Lloverá, de mi boca
Saldrá el mar
No, no, Romeo, no
No, no, me dejes ver
Tu vida fue gestada ya
Lloverá, caudales de agua
Agua lisa
Lloverá, desde mis ojos
No, no, Romeo, no
No, no me dejes ver
Que tu muerte fue gestada ya
Renacimiento
English Translation:
Llovera, minimum drops
Rain, from my mouth
Will the sea
No, no, Romeo, not
No, no, let me see
Your life was articulated and
Rain, water flows
Smooth water
Rain from my eyes
No, no, Romeo, not
No, do not let me see
May your death was articulated and
Renaissance
I've waited a hundred years
And I'd wait a million madami for you
Nothing prepared me for of the privilege of being yours, I do
If I had only felt the warmth within your touch
If I had only seen how you smile when you blush
Or how you curl your lip when you concentrate enough
But I would have known what I was living for all along
What I've been living for
Your pag-ibig is my turning page
Only the sweetest words remain
Every halik is a cursive line
Every touch is a redefining phrase
I surrender who I've been for who you are
For nothing makes me stronger than your fragile heart
If I had only felt how it feels to be yours
I would have known what I've been living for all along
What I've been living for
Though we're tethered to the story we must tell
When I saw you well I knew we'd tell it well
With the whisper we will tame the vicious scenes
Like a feather bringing kingdoms to their knees
And I'd wait a million madami for you
Nothing prepared me for of the privilege of being yours, I do
If I had only felt the warmth within your touch
If I had only seen how you smile when you blush
Or how you curl your lip when you concentrate enough
But I would have known what I was living for all along
What I've been living for
Your pag-ibig is my turning page
Only the sweetest words remain
Every halik is a cursive line
Every touch is a redefining phrase
I surrender who I've been for who you are
For nothing makes me stronger than your fragile heart
If I had only felt how it feels to be yours
I would have known what I've been living for all along
What I've been living for
Though we're tethered to the story we must tell
When I saw you well I knew we'd tell it well
With the whisper we will tame the vicious scenes
Like a feather bringing kingdoms to their knees
Last born of the clan
First one to be free
Lived inside a house
Beneath the hanging tree
Loved them deadly nights
That chilled him to the bone
Words were cried at night
In unforgiving tones
Blood of his men was gone beneath snow
He picked up his kutsilyo and his bow
Killer of Jonathan Low
Violence from without
And anger from within
Crawling through the fields
Informing susunod of kin
They all turned their backs
But they all knew his name
And if he could return
They'd probably do the same
Blood of his mga kaibigan was gone beneath snow
For all that I know, he died
Killer of Jonathan Low
The blood of his mga kaibigan was gone beneath snow
For all that I know, he died
Killer of Jonathan Low
First one to be free
Lived inside a house
Beneath the hanging tree
Loved them deadly nights
That chilled him to the bone
Words were cried at night
In unforgiving tones
Blood of his men was gone beneath snow
He picked up his kutsilyo and his bow
Killer of Jonathan Low
Violence from without
And anger from within
Crawling through the fields
Informing susunod of kin
They all turned their backs
But they all knew his name
And if he could return
They'd probably do the same
Blood of his mga kaibigan was gone beneath snow
For all that I know, he died
Killer of Jonathan Low
The blood of his mga kaibigan was gone beneath snow
For all that I know, he died
Killer of Jonathan Low
Situations are critical
You got to look first before you go
If you wasn’t too sure then now you know
The situations are critical
Wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Deep into the darkness where I hide
The monsters are buried down deep inside
You never know when they’re satisfied
Buried down deep where the sun don’t shine
The monsters are buried down deep inside but
Wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
You’re wasting away, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Deep into the darkness where I hide
Deep into the darkness where I hide
Wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Oh wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
You’re wasting away, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Deep into the darkness where I hide
Deep into the darkness where I hide
Deep into the darkness
You got to look first before you go
If you wasn’t too sure then now you know
The situations are critical
Wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Deep into the darkness where I hide
The monsters are buried down deep inside
You never know when they’re satisfied
Buried down deep where the sun don’t shine
The monsters are buried down deep inside but
Wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
You’re wasting away, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Deep into the darkness where I hide
Deep into the darkness where I hide
Wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Oh wait, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
You’re wasting away, ok, you’ve got to look before you go
Deep into the darkness where I hide
Deep into the darkness where I hide
Deep into the darkness
I was a quick wet boy
Diving too deep for coins
All of your kalye light eyes
Wide on my plastic toys
Then when the cops closed the fair
I cut my long baby hair
estola me a dog-eared map
And called for you everywhere
Have I found you
Flightless bird, jealous, weeping
Or Nawawala you
American mouth
Big pill looming
Now I’m a fat house cat
Nursing my sore blunt tongue
Watching the warm poison rats
Curl through the wide fence cracks
Pissing on magazine photos
Those fishing lures thrown in the cold and clean
Blood of Christ mountain streams
Have I found you
Flightless bird, grounding, bleeding
Or Nawawala you
American mouth
Big pill stuck going down
Diving too deep for coins
All of your kalye light eyes
Wide on my plastic toys
Then when the cops closed the fair
I cut my long baby hair
estola me a dog-eared map
And called for you everywhere
Have I found you
Flightless bird, jealous, weeping
Or Nawawala you
American mouth
Big pill looming
Now I’m a fat house cat
Nursing my sore blunt tongue
Watching the warm poison rats
Curl through the wide fence cracks
Pissing on magazine photos
Those fishing lures thrown in the cold and clean
Blood of Christ mountain streams
Have I found you
Flightless bird, grounding, bleeding
Or Nawawala you
American mouth
Big pill stuck going down
When I first started watching twilight, I thought it was brill! I still do! im watching it right now1 Im such a dedicate dfan I mean Im drinking tsaa with my twilight mug and im watching twilight Eclipse I also have twilight in forks! And I even have a twilight notebook with loads of facts about Twilight, I think robert pattison (edward) is so cute Im always on TEAM EDWARD! If you dont pag-ibig twilight then you dont know how to live! I cant wait till breaking dawn comes out! I pag-ibig Twilight!!!!!!! xxx