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I actually can't see it as a sequel to any version but especially not to the film. "The true feelings of Christine and the Phantom are revealed in LND!" I'm a die-hard E/C shipper but still I genuinely react with: Fuck no. Forgive me the strong phrasing but I pag-ibig logic very much as well as the depth of their relationship which LND completely shits over.

Then someone comes saying LND isn't a sequel to the film but to ALW's PotO. But also that the film and the stage play are exactly the same thing. (Contradicting much?) Well, officially they are not exactly the same thing:

Andrew Lloyd Webber: "While it doesn't deviate much from the stage material, the film has ibingiay it an even deeper emotional center. It's not based on the theatre visually or direction-wise, but it's still got exactly the same essence. And that's all I could have ever hoped for."

As in, the 2004 film's got exactly the same essence but it's essentially about Joel Schumacher and the actros' interpretation of that essence which became madami deeply emotional and different in directional choices.

Don't get me wrong; I do believe that in the 2004 film, Christine loved the Phsntom or rather that man of who the Phantom was one part of and she'd gladly get rid off the Phantom part of him... And she obviously lusted him in the film. But that's where any logic regarding its similarity to LND, ends.

LND's nonsense if it wants to be a sequel to the 2004 film:

1.) LND is on stage like the original play. If it was to be a sequel to a film, it should be on silver screen.

2.) In the film (and on stage), she evidently also loved Raoul and likely would not cheat on him, especially not in the eve of her wedding to him.

3.) They never bother to explain how the hell Christine supposedly found the Phantom's hideout in the big wide world. One might assume she asked help from Madame Giry who was her mother-figure and the Phantom's friend. But in LND Madame Giry bitched about Christine to the Phantom, about her betraying him. So apparently she had no idea about the moonless sky night when the Phantom had ditched Christine who had come back! So, how the hell had Christine found where the Phantom was?!

4.) But let's assume you find a water-tight explanation to how she found him. But then he leaves her because he's "ashamed of what he was"? Yeah, sure, ditching her while she sleeps after having had sex with her all night, must make that sooo much better.[/sarcasm] And in the film (like in the stage play) he sinabi he loves her, and wants her to share with him one love, one lifetime, lead him, save him from his soliturde... Not to mention that in the film he had known and loved her for years. And if she came back and willingly gave herself to him, there is no way he would just ditch her for that kind of selfish reason. After all his life and what had happened the happiness ought to be stronger than any freakin' shame.

5.) There was madami to their relationship also from Christine's side than just lust and lust hadn't been among the original aspects of it. She would not go to him in a pitch black night so that she doesn't have to see him and for the first thing shag with him. After the emotional distress and complexity of the final lair events, there would madami likely be some talking and the pag-ibig confessions before sex. I mean, all the final lair must have pushed lust into the shadow of all the other - dark and light - emotional aspects of their relationship. After all, the final lair was about pag-ibig and marriage. Not about lust.

6.) Unlike the original stage play, the film confirms Christine's age at each essential point. The film confirms with the dates in Christine's tombstone, that she was 16-17 years old during its story which set at 1870, and that she died at the age of 63. There is no way LND's "teeen looong yeeears" could cover that. And the fact that the ten years is a ridiculous math fail to begin with, doesn't make a difference. It still claims to have been ten years from the original story to the araw of her death while the film visually says she lived almost fifty years after the original story ended.

7.) And as if that's not enough, as LND indeed sets in 1907 and Christine is shot in the end which is still that same year.... but wait, Christine's tombstone in the film states she died in 1917! If they can't even get that to match, they certainly did not mean LND as a sequel to the film.

In short; LND doesn't tell us anything about the characters' true feelings because ALW didn't give a shit about the original story, the characters, logic nor even the timelines, when he started to produce LND. Especially if we try to connect it to the film version.

As in, as they didn't care about even logic and realisticness even in timelines, they certainly didn't care about "true feelings". ALW's low opinion on his original PotO doesn't help that at all. So, in fact, the only truth LND reveals is how little ALW cares about his original PotO & common sense.

The ultimate example: In the end of the original story, the Phantom does the redeeming act of pag-ibig sa pamamagitan ng letting Christine and Raoul go and be happy - the sacrifice of love, to pag-ibig is to let go is the whole point of PotO, and now ALW wants to completely trash that sa pamamagitan ng having the Phantom suddenly 10 years later try to claim and trick her again. Fucking hell!

PS. Why do so many try to fit the time of Gustav's conceivment to the film, though - even if you decide to ignore all logic and still want to think of it as a sequel to the film - LND itself makes a clear reference to Gustav's conceivment having happened after the original story ended. You know, that passionate night beneath the moonless sky when it was too dark to see a thing at the eve of her wedding to Raoul. That night that just couldn't happen.
 Christine and Erik, open up your mind!
Christine and Erik, open up your mind!
Hi guys, since I had only done the stage review, here is the movie review that I will write.

The Story

While the story is exactly like the stage version, some songs were revise for logical reasons. A couple of them were shortened to avoid repetition, the ending with the elderly Raoul was added that is not feature in the stage version.

Music of the Night

As mentioned, many familiar songs are feature and are shortened. Originally, the Phantom (Erik in the original novel) has a new song which was written specially for this film. But it was omitted due to time constrain, it is feature on the Special Edition DVD.

The Characters

While watching this film, I keep thinking that this film is like Disney's Beauty and the Beast, with the exception of the ending which both the antagonist and protagonist did not die.

In All Your Fantasies

So, these are my thoughts on the film and enjoy it.
 Stranger Than You Dream It.
Stranger Than You Dream It.
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Christine sat in her dressing room waiting to go on for the first time. What had led up to this moment was extraordinary. The Angel of Music had ibingiay her this gift, and so much more, over the past three months, pag-ibig of music bonded them; forever. She and her father had loved music he had taught her to sing, but since he had died, ten years ago, she hadn’t felt she sang beautifully, but now she knew it. The Angel came, and with her father’s promise being fulfilled, she reflected on the past three months.

Christine arrived in her dressing room, aside from the antique ginto mirror, the rose-red...
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I recently saw the 25th anniversary on PBS, and while I enjoyed it I did have some problems with some of the performances. I felt like the actress playing Christine was trying too hard to play up the ingenue aspect of the character. One example of this is when she first starts pag-awit in Don Juan Triumphant. She's prancing around the stage like she truly has "no thoughts within her head." I much prefer the solemn take of the song that they used in the movie. However, I do think that the actress in the play got better when they moved onto "point of no return".
I mostly liked the lady playing...
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Righty-oh totally bored at this moment and no points for guessing what and who’s in my head, the same thing which is always there, the same thing thats been there since I discovered it, Phantom. Basically I started with the ipakita then continued to the book and the film but I'm starting with thoughts on the book as it is the most important. It is the real POTO. I had planned to save pagbaba it until my holiday yet when it came in the post I sat on the floor where I opened it and just read it all. I meant to just start it but once I had read the first pre chapter and learnt that the story was...
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The icon on the right was made sa pamamagitan ng kiri_no_okaami at LJ.

Which E/C ship could've actually come true?

I think it’s Gerik and Emmy’s Christine from the 2004 film. The pair’s mental states and pag-ibig for each others seemed essentially madami stable and genuine, than in other versions.

Gerik was clearly far less insane than any of the stage Phantoms I’ve seen, not to mention Leroux’s original Erik. He never even physically abused Christine. (Yes, he quite violently dragged her down to the lair in the end, but it didn’t seem to actually hurt her, and when he calmed down he was very gentle for...
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I originally posted this on IMDB's board as VampireOutlaw.

No one wanted a sequel, <-- (generally speaking), it was still made, the critiques hate it, the fans hate it, it keeps on having to close down...Yet it's still here?
I know it has its share of fans, but nonetheless the crucially and strongly negative reception seems to be the situation in general.

So why the bloody hell does ALW not give up? Or if he can't bring himself to, why does he keep on trying with only minor changes?

~ First a sidenote:
Love Never Dies is not a sequel to the 2004 movie because that movie is Joel Schumacher's interpretation...
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THE CURSE OF THE OPERA

Three days ago, on the 23rd of June 2013, a crisis to go down in the history of musical theatre occurred. The female lead, Christine Daee, in London's best loved musical, the Phantom of The Opera, was found dead in her hotel room after the magnificent first show's finale. Phillipa Jones, who played the role, had previously been telling the rest of the cast outlandish rumours of a face appearing behind her mirror - as the Phantom did to Christine's in the play.

Distraught, yet convinced the ipakita must go on, the director (who will remain unnamed) forced her understudy to...
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