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I actually can't see it as a sequel to any version but especially not to the film. "The true feelings of Christine and the Phantom are revealed in LND!" I'm a die-hard E/C shipper but still I genuinely react with: Fuck no. Forgive me the strong phrasing but I pag-ibig logic very much as well as the depth of their relationship which LND completely shits over.

Then someone comes saying LND isn't a sequel to the film but to ALW's PotO. But also that the film and the stage play are exactly the same thing. (Contradicting much?) Well, officially they are not exactly the same thing:

Andrew Lloyd Webber: "While it doesn't deviate much from the stage material, the film has ibingiay it an even deeper emotional center. It's not based on the theatre visually or direction-wise, but it's still got exactly the same essence. And that's all I could have ever hoped for."

As in, the 2004 film's got exactly the same essence but it's essentially about Joel Schumacher and the actros' interpretation of that essence which became madami deeply emotional and different in directional choices.

Don't get me wrong; I do believe that in the 2004 film, Christine loved the Phsntom or rather that man of who the Phantom was one part of and she'd gladly get rid off the Phantom part of him... And she obviously lusted him in the film. But that's where any logic regarding its similarity to LND, ends.

LND's nonsense if it wants to be a sequel to the 2004 film:

1.) LND is on stage like the original play. If it was to be a sequel to a film, it should be on silver screen.

2.) In the film (and on stage), she evidently also loved Raoul and likely would not cheat on him, especially not in the eve of her wedding to him.

3.) They never bother to explain how the hell Christine supposedly found the Phantom's hideout in the big wide world. One might assume she asked help from Madame Giry who was her mother-figure and the Phantom's friend. But in LND Madame Giry bitched about Christine to the Phantom, about her betraying him. So apparently she had no idea about the moonless sky night when the Phantom had ditched Christine who had come back! So, how the hell had Christine found where the Phantom was?!

4.) But let's assume you find a water-tight explanation to how she found him. But then he leaves her because he's "ashamed of what he was"? Yeah, sure, ditching her while she sleeps after having had sex with her all night, must make that sooo much better.[/sarcasm] And in the film (like in the stage play) he sinabi he loves her, and wants her to share with him one love, one lifetime, lead him, save him from his soliturde... Not to mention that in the film he had known and loved her for years. And if she came back and willingly gave herself to him, there is no way he would just ditch her for that kind of selfish reason. After all his life and what had happened the happiness ought to be stronger than any freakin' shame.

5.) There was madami to their relationship also from Christine's side than just lust and lust hadn't been among the original aspects of it. She would not go to him in a pitch black night so that she doesn't have to see him and for the first thing shag with him. After the emotional distress and complexity of the final lair events, there would madami likely be some talking and the pag-ibig confessions before sex. I mean, all the final lair must have pushed lust into the shadow of all the other - dark and light - emotional aspects of their relationship. After all, the final lair was about pag-ibig and marriage. Not about lust.

6.) Unlike the original stage play, the film confirms Christine's age at each essential point. The film confirms with the dates in Christine's tombstone, that she was 16-17 years old during its story which set at 1870, and that she died at the age of 63. There is no way LND's "teeen looong yeeears" could cover that. And the fact that the ten years is a ridiculous math fail to begin with, doesn't make a difference. It still claims to have been ten years from the original story to the araw of her death while the film visually says she lived almost fifty years after the original story ended.

7.) And as if that's not enough, as LND indeed sets in 1907 and Christine is shot in the end which is still that same year.... but wait, Christine's tombstone in the film states she died in 1917! If they can't even get that to match, they certainly did not mean LND as a sequel to the film.

In short; LND doesn't tell us anything about the characters' true feelings because ALW didn't give a shit about the original story, the characters, logic nor even the timelines, when he started to produce LND. Especially if we try to connect it to the film version.

As in, as they didn't care about even logic and realisticness even in timelines, they certainly didn't care about "true feelings". ALW's low opinion on his original PotO doesn't help that at all. So, in fact, the only truth LND reveals is how little ALW cares about his original PotO & common sense.

The ultimate example: In the end of the original story, the Phantom does the redeeming act of pag-ibig sa pamamagitan ng letting Christine and Raoul go and be happy - the sacrifice of love, to pag-ibig is to let go is the whole point of PotO, and now ALW wants to completely trash that sa pamamagitan ng having the Phantom suddenly 10 years later try to claim and trick her again. Fucking hell!

PS. Why do so many try to fit the time of Gustav's conceivment to the film, though - even if you decide to ignore all logic and still want to think of it as a sequel to the film - LND itself makes a clear reference to Gustav's conceivment having happened after the original story ended. You know, that passionate night beneath the moonless sky when it was too dark to see a thing at the eve of her wedding to Raoul. That night that just couldn't happen.
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Curiosity Kills

This was written for the Featuring Luciana challenge. The challenge: Write a oneshot story describing Luciana's thoughs on Erik, shortly before her death.

“I want you to take off the mask. Please take off the mask.”

    I am standing in front of Erik, begging him to remove the mask that hides his face from me. I want to know his face, to see him.

    “You must excuse me, mademoiselle. I have work to finish.”

    The nerve of him! “I will not excuse you! You don’t have work to finish! I want you to take off...
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I have seen T.P.O.T.O many times, and most of them have been the 25th anniversary performance. This performance is by-far my favorite. Ramin Kariloo is the BEST Phantom I have ever seen. Sierra Boggess is also the best Christine. Hadley Fraser is one of the best Raoul's I have seen. Even Meg and Madame Giry were fantastic. Carlotta was probably my least paborito actress. I enjoyed this performance so much better because the actors seemed like they were literally their characters. I hope you enjoyed this and you can watch the entire performance on youtube. Thanks!
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There are various interpretations of why the old Raoul brings the monkey music box to her grave and some even think that all the old Raoul parts of the movie are completely useless. However, I'm one of those who believe that while the film would've worked perfectly well even without Raoul travelling anywhere with the music box, all the old Raoul clips are perhaps the most essential aspect of the entire film's basic point. I think they are the ultimate aspect that drastically differs the film from the stage play.

A monkey symbolizes many things that are strongly related to the story. Essential...
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Carlotta is writen as a horrid character. She tells rumors and plans schemes to eliminate christine as her competition. I think what is often overlooked is that Carlotta is one of the so many victims of the book. From what is written you can tell that Carlotta was extremely talented as an opera singer as the book mentions how perfect an instrument her voice was. She had the misfortune to be ill and be replaced sa pamamagitan ng someone far madami loved and adored than herself, that in itself is enough to make anyone mad, take a araw of sick and your job isnt waiting for you when you get back. Not only was she...
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It is no secret that I'm not fond of pag-ibig Never Dies. I don't like the idea of ALW making a sequel to a ipakita that had no need of one, I don't like the fact that although a good portion of the music (while fairly pretty) has been recycled or pinched from other sources while Wee Andy brags about how it's the best thing he's ever done and it's SO original, and I especially am appalled sa pamamagitan ng what has been done to the characters. However, as it exists and it is impossible to avoid it in the fandom or erase it from my memory, I have decided that I must analyze it and try to figure out just what in the...
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The Haunted Mansion ride at Disney has always been one of my favourite things, and Phantom tops the listahan at #1 fave thing. And a while back I started noticing really heavy similarities between the two things and I found many of them interesting. I thought I would share these observations here, so that others might enjoy the coincidences, or homages if you'd care to take it that way.

We will begin in the Foyer. Above the fireplace hangs a portrait where a young gentleman (presumably Master Gracey) hangs. It is here that the unseen guide for the attraction first makes his presence known.
"When...
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posted by WildConcerto
All right.

So Tumblr has been crazy with this in the last few weeks since Sierra Boggess has left the Broadway production of The Phantom of the Opera on September 6th. A rather short run, so to say: she did start only on May 14th…

I wasn’t going to write anything about this at first. But now, rumor has it Sierra Boggess has stated that her 2014 run in Broadway was going to be the last time she would play Christine.

Cough cough.

Ha.

Of course.

Bullshit. Bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit. BULLSHIT.

Everyone knows Sierra is Cameron Mackintosh’s and Andrew Lloyd Webber’s darling....
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tuktok 10 reasons for why Erik/Christine doesn’t work.

Yes, I know I was supposed to ilathala my pag-ibig Never Dies rant before, but… this is really to help me write it.

So, short story. Before coming on Fanfiction, I already knew that almost everyone on Earth were E/C shippers. But I was still shocked of seeing the ridiculous number of E/C authors, especially that there are very good ones among them. Now, I’m not being rude, it’s okay to like the E/C pairing (I guess…), but I’m just being really honest. I remember, when I entered the phandom, I was a mild R/C shipper (You know, “I prefer...
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