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pagtatalo Do you think that people are born gay?

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Yes, and they can't change how they are or stop their feelings
   40%
Maybe some are, and some aren't
   18%
I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.
   18%
(added by Cinders)
No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that
   7%
No, they are born straight but then 'gayness' just develops in them
   6%
No, it's madami like a different taste.
   4%
(added by teNaxx)
They are born a little gay but it can also depend...
They are born a little gay but it can also depend on their childhood
   3%
(added by aholic)
I don&# 39; t know how people are born
I don't know how people are born
   2%
(added by cruella)
Yes, but they can change who they are and stop their feelings
   1%
If they were, would it change how you felt about...
If they were, would it change how you felt about homosexuality?
   1%
(added by shortdevil)
No, because no one has sexual feelings at birth
No, because no one has sexual feelings at birth
   1%
(added by ShadowFan100)
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amazondebs picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
ooooo hmmmmm I can't phrase a option how i see it

i don't think people are born gay, it has been theorized that some people might be born with gay tendencies but so far i have seen no convincing evidence so say this for definite

i also don't think it's a choice though, i think your sexuality is something that is linked with you and is effected by your surroundings and people that influence you, like your personality

it really truly sickens me that some people think they can try change gay people or "pray away the gay" you might as well try get me to pray to god for me to black, personally i don't give a dam about religious freedoms when these camps come in to it, they should be should down under charges of emotional and mental cruelty to humans
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They are born a little gay but...
aholic picked They are born a little gay but it can also depend on their childhood:
It depends on how the brain starts reacting on male and female smells and stuff. One part of the brain turns on the female stuff and another one on the male stuff. Some men turn on the men stuff and I think that they can't help it. But it may have something to do with their childhood. - FX if they played with dolls and if they were close friends with girls and wanted to do the same stuff as them. And also if they were thought to do something very feminine.
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dsdsdrsf picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
I can't see how when you are born you are destined to love only males or females
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Jeffersonian picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
They definatly aren't born gay. It's totally their choice ( personally I say the wrong choice) but it's a choice.
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teNaxx picked No, it's madami like a different taste.:
I just think it's more like a lifestyle or a different taste. If you like red color better than blue, you can't make yourself like blue better, but time can change it.
I think people should really let them live their own lives. If boys feel happier kissing boys and girls kissing girls, it's their own choice. Who are we to tell them how to live?
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chel1395 picked Yes, and they can't change how they are or stop their feelings:
All my gay friends say it's just who they are, so I guess "being born gay" is the best response I have to this. I don't really care how it happens, as long as people are true to themselves and don't try to deny what they are just to please society.
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jamfan4 picked Yes, and they can't change how they are or stop their feelings:
Gay people don't choose to be homosexual, and believing that it is a choice like veganism or changing your name is ridiculous.
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NikaDawson picked Yes, and they can't change how they are or stop their feelings:
Alright well I don't normally comment on this spot but I'm going to. How can anyone say it is a choice? In the past, and even the present, homosexuals have been killed, tortured, ridiculed, mocked and all other manners of unpleasant things simply because of who they are attracted to and people honestly think that someone would choose that?

Various animals and people since the dawn of time have had homosexual liasons, it's not a choice. Can anyone honestly say they woke up one morning and said, "I choose to be straight", no, it's just who you are.

Realizing that you like the same sex can be the hardest thing anyone ever has to go through in life. Afraid that your parents and friends will hate you, afraid you might end up killed by people who hate you for no other reason then your different then what someone thousands of years ago decided was 'normal', and just wanting to be like everyone else. Hundreds of teens every year kill themselves because of it.
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SG1-090 picked Yes, and they can't change how they are or stop their feelings:
I think it's just biological.
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Cinders picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
Sexuality is developed, but it doesn't mean that homosexuality is a choice. Just as nobody is born as a pubescent teenager.

You can't control who you fall in love with.
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Cinders picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
Can I also just say, I take umbrage at the phrase "see gays around them and decide they want to be like that." It's not a fad, or something that people want to be, like a professional football player or a rock star. Words and phrases like that I feel trivialize all the pain my friends (and, to a small extent myself) went through when coming to terms to their sexuality.

And I will state, once again, how ignorant I feel it is for some one who isn't gay to assume they know what it is like for someone who is.

Saying that being gay is a choice implies that the speaker at one point in his life chose to be straight. In my opinion, the only people who should weigh in on whether or not being gay is a choice are the LGBT community, and let me tell you, representing them, the majority of them will tell you that they don't choose who they're attracted to.

It's as simple as this: You are a teenage boy. There are two girls. One is a brunette with dark eyes, the other is a blonde with green eyes. You like the brunette, but not the blonde. Can you help it, if you don't like the blonde? Can you help being attracted to the brunette? Did you choose not to like the blonde? Honestly, did you?
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adavila picked Maybe some are, and some aren't:
maybe people with gay tendencies but heterosexual people I dont think so
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dsdsdrsf picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
But no one really knows unless YOU YOURSELF are gay. any straight person can't say what someone else is like. I think you can help who you like, it shouldn't be about looks but personality.
(I tried to make a longer description but it told me shorten it so i had to simplify it)

It sort of a fad because if there were no footballers who would want to be a footballer. (People who dared to dream). So you are saying that everyone is born BI/nothing.
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Sappp picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
Of course. People grow up, look around, see gay people and want to be like that.
Why? Because the story of Matthew Sheperd is SO attracting? Because the fact that lots of people say it's unnatural, a sin, disgusting, vile etc, and you like people to say such things to you?

(for those who don't know who Matthew Sheperd is, look it up! The movie is on fanpop I believe)

In most country's you can't marry, you can't have children (adoption is not that easy when you're gay and unmarried), why would people choose something that is so hard? It does not make any sense.

I read the story of Cinders friend who is gay and really struggled with it and I kept thinking: why do people believe anyone would choose that?
I heard this question many times, but I never saw an answer from those who believe it to be a choice.
So I'll ask it again. To those who believe homosexuality to be a choice: Why do you believe people choose it?


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dsdsdrsf picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
Because they like men/women

If you really loved someone you would go through all that for them
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Sappp picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
O.K.
So you're saying that people choose to be gay, in other words to love people of the same gender, because they love people of the same gender?

Am I missing something?:S

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dsdsdrsf picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
Yeah. I think :S

I'm saying people aren't born gay but they love people of the same gender because that's what they like
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Sappp picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
I'm sorry but that makes no sense.

You say:
'No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that'
So they CHOOSE to be gay, to like people of the same gender.

And you say:
'I'm saying people aren't born gay but they love people of the same gender because that's what they like'

How can you make the choice to love people of the same gender, based on the fact that you love people of the same gender?
This is like saying people choose to be a firefighter because they already are a firefighter.

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dsdsdrsf picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
You are REALLY CONFUSING ME!!

It's like liking chocolate ice cream because everyone else like chocolate ice cream. If that's all you know then that's you would like. Different people have different preferences I know but if there was no such thing as being gay. Who would be? The only reason men like men and women like women is because someone else decided that's what I like. If that person hadn't nobody would know gays. Like if football had never been invented then no one would want to be a footballer.
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Sappp picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
I understand you say that people choose to be gay and therefor there are gays. However you say they choose to be gay based on the fact they already are gay, which does not make sense.

'The only reason men like men and women like women is because someone else decided that's what I like. If that person hadn't nobody would know gays.' Would you care to elborate on this, I'm not really sure what you mean.


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amazondebs picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
no one invented sexuality it has been like this since the begining of time :S

I like the ice cream analogy though
If you like chocolate, you can't help liking it, it's not a choice technically you can chose vanilla but you won't be happy
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dsdsdrsf picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
However you say they choose to be gay based on the fact they already are gay,

I really don't know when i have said that

It's more like never having peanut butter until you are 12. Then you see someone eating peanut butter, and you try it, and enjoy a lot. And can't imagine going back to chocolate spread. Because you realise peanut butter is the one for you. ANd you now hate chocolate spread.
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Sappp picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
I asked why people would choose to be gay when it's so hard and you said: 'Because they like men/women.'

And then a post later you said:
'I'm saying people aren't born gay but they love people of the same gender because that's what they like'

And you picked 'No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that'.

So according to what you picked you think homosexuality is a choice but in the two examples I just quoted, you said that choice is made because they like people of the same gender. But that would mean they are already gay when making the choice.



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dsdsdrsf picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
No, it would be saying they like men and women because it's what they know to like
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Sappp picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
As for the peanut butter analogy: I don't think this is a good analogy at all. When you never had peanut butter, you don't know what you are missing. You'll be quite content with chocolate spread.
Homosexuals however will not be happy in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, even if they don't know any better. They won't be able to truly fall in love with that other person, something will always be missing. The relationship will not be good for both persons involved.




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llerenaprincipe picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
i've heard of people that were gay and then they became christians and they are straight now...
soo..
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adavila picked Maybe some are, and some aren't:
c´mon man that is just dumb

or brain washing
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Cinders picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
It is brainwashing. "Pray The Gay Away" camps are disgusting.

I have to say, dsdsdrsf, I'm a little confused on what you're saying myself. Do you mean that people who are gay have the choice on whether or not to act on their feelings? Well, yes, that's true. We all have the choice of whether or not to act on our feelings. But being gay is not a fad. It's not the cool thing to do, it's not something people necessarily want for themselves, it's just something that they are. Like being particularly tall, or being a certain skin color. You cannot control your emotions, or your sexuality. You can choose to act on it, but like debs said, if you choose vanilla and you don't like vanilla, you'll eat it, but you won't be happy.

The reason I have an issue with the choice you made is because the phrasing makes it sound so trivial, like people would want to be gay like they would want to be an Olympic medal winner. Although after much thought, I think what you meant was, "A person is attracted to someone of their own sex and chooses to act on it." Am I wrong?

I didn't kiss my first girlfriend because it was the thing to do, or because I wanted to be cool. I did it because, dammit, she was hot, and adorable, and sweet, and I just thought she had great, kissable lips. I kissed my first boyfriend for similar reasons.

The fact of the matter is, "gay" is not a choice, it's not a fad, and it's not something people do just because they see other people doing it.

I refer you to reason number two in the "ten reasons why gay marriage is wrong" link: "Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall."
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amazondebs picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
carly don't tell people that or i will get loads of midgets hanging around me ;P


if any of you Politically correct shorties out there want me to say "short people" or "small people" then bite me, if you can call me a giant, i can call you a midget
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DrDevience picked Yes, and they can't change how they are or stop their feelings:
MY first reaction to this is: why does it matter?

This whole question implies there is something wrong with being gay, when there isn't.

And as to this: i've heard of people that were gay and then they became christians and they are straight now...

Man, do not even get me started. If you believe that shit, you're an idiot.
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I think that It has a lot to do with the enviroment where you are raced, your personality and specially your personal experiences.
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paperstarfalls picked Yes, and they can't change how they are or stop their feelings:
i can't see why anyone would choose to be part of a minority group that's under/gets a lot of pressure/threat/abuse. i think your born gay, straight or bi-sexual.
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They are born a little gay but...
Sonicluver2282 picked They are born a little gay but it can also depend on their childhood:
its known that most gay/les couples are what they are by getting abused by some one in the chiled hood. or in the dating life that they dont wanna be in love with the opisite sex. Most boys becoem gay because there mom or a girlfriend has doen some thing so bad they wont forget it. And most girls become lesbions because of a boyfriend that has done somthing to them the will never get over. Im not sure if thats all true but its what I herd. I also beleive you just fall in love with who you fall in love with
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Cinders picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
"its known that most gay/les couples are what they are by getting abused by some one in the chiled hood"

Cite your source. Other than hearsay, what studies support this?

"Im not sure if thats all true but its what I herd."

Heard it from where? You can't say something like a fact if you don't know that it is.

I'm very active in the LGBT community, and several people I know were abused because they were gay. Verbally, even physically beaten, because of their sexuality. Not the other way around.
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sapherequeen picked Yes, and they can't change how they are or stop their feelings:
For those who are saying that it's a choice, may I ask you a question?

Here it is; Did you truly choose to love the opposite sex, or no?
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ColieAnne91 picked No, they grow up and see gays around them and decide they want to be like that:
i see hott girls all the time that i enjoy spending time with but im not going 2 date them.
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bri-marie picked Maybe some are, and some aren't:
I suppose "being born that way" is the closest I can get to explaining how I see this.

I'm straight. I've always been straight. I didn't make any decision to be straight, and I can't change the fact I'm straight. I've yet to meet a heterosexual who chose to be so. Why would I think any other sexuality would be different?
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No, because no one has sexual...
ShadowFan100 picked No, because no one has sexual feelings at birth:
People aren't born with automatic sexual attraction from day 1, it develops as we go thru life. You'll know when it happens (or doesn't happen *coughasexualcough*) tho.
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zanhar1 picked I don't believe anyone is born with a sexuality, one way or the other.:
I don't think that people are born with sexual attraction but I also don't think that people choose who they are attracted to when they do start to feel it. I say this because I never developed sexual attraction.

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