I'm also really scared about the whole Regina-Snow situation they made. If Regina is that mad Snow for something that she did as a child must of been bad. I'm kinda scared to find out. But I know it's gonna be EPIC!

I'm excited for it. They've been teasing at this whole thing since the Pilot so to finally have that piece to the puzzle should be really interesting to see. I think it'll probably be worth all the build up.

I can't wait.

I'm probably gonna cry lol.

It should be epic for me to feel sorry for Evil. For now, I can't say anything based on the pictures.

But if it's something Snow did as a child it will just prove that Evil is twisted and bitter in essence, not because of something somebody did to her. You can't really blame a child! Let's be serious about it.

But keep in mind whatever happened to her, happened to her when she was young as well. Teen years are the hardest to handle after all.

Well, it seems she never got a more mature way of seeing things. She was, after all, all grown up when she tried to kill her husband and daughter!

Based on previews for tonight's episode, I feel like Snow and Regina are incredibly similar. When they lost love they both resorted to becoming, well, evil, so I think this episode will hit home for me.

^ Exactly, both of them resorted to viloance, one just gets judged more harshly.

@Princess the need for revenge is in human it lingers in the back if everyone's minds. I believe emotions are not something you can out grow, they are always you, they are simply pushed to the back of one's mind until push forth again. Maybe she isn't handling it maturely, but Snow (based on the previews) isn't either.

^Agreed! If it is that way...then I would love for Snow to have her Revenge on Evil/Regina! I would love for all the people that Evil/Regina hurt to have their revenge on her.


As for "judging"... is the other way around! People find all sort of reasons to excuse Evil/Regina's pure wicked acts and when someone like David makes a human mistake..he's judged very-very harsh! Evil/Regina's mistakes are not simple human mistakes... killing, hurting for pleasure etc...

I can't wait for this episode. Looking at the photos it looks as though Evil Queen's marriage to Snow's father was an "arranged" marriage. How awful it would be to be forced into a marriage you didn't want especially to someone who looks to be MUCH older! Talk about child bride.

I don't think anyone's making "excuses" for Regina's actions, what she has done is wrong ie. Killing Graham. However most judge it at face value, yes she killed him BUT why did she kill him? Because in her eyes he betrayed her by standing with Emma.

All the emotion's Regina is acting out of are all human, however wrong those actions may result. Snow's proof that everyone was an "evil" side but I think Regina is less able to control her outbursts she is literally blinded by her hurt, she has tunnel vision right now. She's under her own curse so maybe true loves kiss will do the same as it was about to do for Rumple when Belle kissed him.

I have hope for her. She wasn't born evil she was made evil. So there is always a chance for her to be good again.

If I was forced to marry an old bald guy with a pot-belly that I didn't love I would be bitter too!

About the so stressed relationship Regina had with Graham... let's not forget she treated him bad... He wasn't even her official boyfriend. She kept him as a sex-toy.

David is in some sort of hazey confused state, I'm not a big fan of him, but I will say I don't think it's as much his fault as it is his flustered state of mind. But I defiantly think Gina is judged way harsher, most people don't even see her as human. I also don't believe Gina kills for pleasure, she has a reasons, to say she does so for fun is a bit exaggerated in my opinion. Did it look like she was having fun when she killed Graham? To me she looked both angry and upset.

^I think it looked like she had her big ego hurt.

^^ You must be looking through snow covered eyes. The look on her face when she killed Graham was anger and hurt. It had nothing to do with her 'big ego'.

^She felt anger because her BIG EGO was hurt. She can't accept that somebody just can't love her. She has some HUGE pretentious from everyone (to love her, to admire her MOST etc.) But she gives nothing in return.

She thinks that just because she was hurt..she has the right to KILL! But guess what,Evil/Regina!! you're not the only one who got hurt, you're not the only one who suffers. Maybe if it wasn't for her BIG EGO she would see that.

This is probably another agree to disagree thing.

I just can't stand egoist, conceited, proud, self-centered persons like Evil/Regina. => This has nothing to do with being hurt and suffering (that I understand).

We have very different opinions lol.

I believe she doesn't want EVERYONE to love her she wants ONE person to love her. Which is not a lot to ask for. She wants to have the love like Charming and Snow have together but her love was taken away from her.

I actually agree with Princess...it really was about her ego. Emma knocked it down and took her man. She didn't ever love Graham.

Well ... Evil/Regina wanted Snow's father to love her most, she wanted the Huntsman/Graham to love her most, she was thrilled that the Genie loved her most (and took advantage of that).

But she didn't love the king, Graham, nor the Genie! So... you can see my point.

But you aren't seeing the fact, she moved on from the King because she saw he didn't "really" love her. So she turned to Genie but she couldn't be with him if the King was still living. Even though the King didn't love her he wouldn't have let her go to be with another man.

Regina's problem is she is so use to NOT being loved that she herself doesn't know love. I believe she thought she 'loved' Graham but she's like a child in that way because she doesn't truly understand love. She's like a child on a playground when she saw Emma with her 'toy' her first reaction was to break it so if she couldn't play with it no one could.

You keep saying SHE didn't love them but truth is THEY didn't love her. Which is why she kept moving on to the next person trying to find someone who she could love and would love her in return.

her father didn't love her? the ginnie didn't love her?! Snow's father might have loved his daughter (which is natural!) more, but he loved her too.

people like Rumple don't have that much love. some people don't get as much love as she had in a lifetime!

I don't like her because she's petty. and mean. And it has nothing to do with HURT and SUFFERING. It has to do with never being satisfied with the people that love you.

All those who admire her should make a little imagination exercise. if you were to meet her in person and had the chance to be her friend? SHE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SATISFIED WITH YOU. she would hurt you and not appreciate you.

this pettiness is what I really dislike about her.

EVIL/REGINA had chances! had love! is more than most of us ever get. but she crushed everything.

I'm excited to see it but I can't really say much else about it until I've actually seen the episode.

Princess-Yvonne that's ones opinion. I don't believe any of those men truly loved her. Snow's father said he didn't love her even as much as his dead wife. Regina to the King was just a mother for Snow and someone for him to not feel "lonely". I believe she was more like a possession of his than someone he loved.

We can go back and fourth all day but I'm not going to see things your way and you're not going to open up your mind to a possibility of seeing Regina in any other light.
I can at least admit to all the faults she has(which is a long list). I'm not trying to change your mind on Regina but just listing facts and reasons WHY she isn't as bad as some believe.

And open mind is all I want people to have.

Even though I really dislike Regina, I know we're going to have to wait and see why she is the way she is. But, Princess is right, she had love and she has always squandered it. Perhaps the love she kept is nothing compared to the love she lost.
We're going to have to wait and see.

This debate is never ending. As I've said before I think the only one of the 4 you listed really loved her, well besides her father, maybe the genie.

Yes, I see. For me the debate is over. My mind IS VERY OPENED, and so are MY EYES. I see EvilRegina in all her pettiness.

I find the dark side very interesting, seductive. I have a long list of favorite evil characters (Darth Vader, Morgana Pendragon. Tom Crupuld etc.). So MY MIND IS VERY OPENED. I understand and vibrate in forn of PAIN, SUFFERING, TRAGIC DESTINIES.


I really wanted to like Evil/Regina. That is why to me she’s A HUGE DISSAPOINTMENT.