LND story doesn't enhance the experience of the first one, most of the time it contradicts it and in the end leaves you feeling like like Webber didn't understand the first one at all. To be honest i don't think the actors did either, I mean if you can't see that your character [the phantom] went from a sympathetic "monster" to a jerk who apparently couldn't write a descent song unless his seresa popper is there, not counting the life size barbie version (guess she served her purpose) than you apparently did not understand that the ending of the first one was not a cliffhanger, but was the phantom's releasing of Christine, even though he still loved her she didn't pag-ibig him (certainly would never have jumped into kama with him) speaking of which Christine's character is treated in LND like she's the victim, when it's really Raoul and Meg. Christine and The Phantom might as well be Bonnie and Clyde for as much I sympathize with them. Raoul's character is fed to the gerick tagahanga girls (Webber being one of them) so its not surprising this is what came out. Meg was slaughtered in the interest of so called "plot development" and really makes you wonder what happened to The Phantom's blackmailing abilities, and the 20,000 francs per month? (yes in the book he gives it back, but that's the book) he never bought anything, are tickets to America that expensive? and then there's the main plot devise, Gustave. The did-not-surprise-anyone-illegitimate-son-of-Christine-and-the-Phantom... is actually a decent character, probably because he's kidnapped most of the time or because I like the song "Beauty Underneath" who can say. But I don't find him that annoying or at least not as much as some people do. Though his songs about being beautiful do get jarring after awhile. I don't really have anything positive to say about Mdm. Giry, she's the worst mother in the world (followed closely sa pamamagitan ng Christine) and I never like her in POTO so nothing really changes in LND as far as I'm concerned. I feel like I've mostly covered the character issues with LND I think the story's issues have been well discussed in other forums but the story in and of its self is just a shipping of Erik and Christine, and a poor one at that; it misses the essence of its predecessor and thus fails miserably.
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Why do you consider Christine a bad mother, and is "Gerik" just to make typing faster? HE did have the same script as the other Andrew Lloyd Webber Phantoms.
TBUGoth
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How isn't she? She watches a man hang her son over a railing, while simultaneously threating to harm him if she doesn't comply with his request and she doesn't even raise her voice or get mad or gosh crazy leave. I mean is that suppose to be romantic cuz it isn't, it just makes her look like she doesn't care about her kid. It would be one thing if it were some total stranger but it wasn't it was the father of her child, she should have done SOMETHING.
PandaKISS
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As for the other two; well you know who I'm talking about don't ya, I suppose it makes typing a bit faster. His script wasn't exactly the same now was it, the background story was completely changed in the movie (well the setting was too which makes NO sense) and imo GB is the weakest of the phantoms, well him and Peter Joback.
PandaKISS
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Here are my LND plot thoughts:
TBUGoth
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Meg kidnapps Gustave, Christine's and The Phantom's son, and almost drowns him. When Christine, the Phantom, and Madme Giry arrive to save Gustave, Meg, saying she feels unwanted points a gun at her head, But when the Phantom tells her the most obvious thing that she will never be like Christine, instead of just admiring her friend, because of the latter fact or shooting and killing herself, because of the latter fact, she shoots and kills Chistine! This sounds like premeditated murder. Look how the scene is staged in the video below this information. Also she is bipolar and has these symptoms: 1. Feeling unusually “high” and optimistic OR extremely irritable 2. Unrealistic, grandiose beliefs about one’s abilities or powers 3. Sleeping very little, but feeling extremely energetic 4. Racing thoughts; jumping quickly from one idea to the susunod 5. Impaired judgment and impulsiveness 6. pagganap recklessly without thinking about the consequences 7. Delusions and hallucinations (in severe cases) So... HOW responsible is she for her actions? I saw The Phantom of the Opera when I was 12, and I heard the Original London Cast Recording of pag-ibig Never Dies when I was 16. sa pamamagitan ng then my life had gone through some MAJOUR changes. For one thing my Dad died 2.75 months after I saw The Phantom of the Opera on stage (believe it or not) and my life was continuing to get worse. When I was 13 I had read "The Phantom of Manhattan" so it was not a surprise to me when Christine died. :( But what Meg sinabi before she shot her sounded JUST like I was feeling sa pamamagitan ng the time I was 16. (added to that my relationship with my sister had gone tough the same stages as Meg and Christine's in pag-ibig Never Dies the Australian production in the past eight years at the time) but I HADN'T killed anybody. Why? When I saw the DVD The blocking for "Please Miss Giry I Want to go Back" made it look like Meg MEANT to shoot Christine. Later I found out Meg was Bipolar, and I'm not! Also during a class called "Working with Young Children" I learned that If a child is born less then a taon into a marriage it most likely falls apart, which is WHY Christine chooses the Phantom. Also gambling was popular among rich people during the time that the Phantom of the Opera was set. Raoul in the original novel is immature and immature people are impulsive, and do things like drink too much, and gamble. Also the behavior could have been affected sa pamamagitan ng the D'Artoi rescue expedition. What I like about pag-ibig Never Dies is it's biases in reality. But, Mr. Webber WHAT HAPPENS NEXT??
TBUGoth
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"This sounds like premeditated murder" na I think Meg's aim was just off, she should of shot the phantom. I would of if I were her in LND.
PandaKISS
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My point exactly! the Phantom would have been easier to shoot, and ALL the things that she sinabi where aimed at him, so WHY didn't she shoot HIM.? (rhetorical question) that is why I say shooting Christine was premeditated.
TBUGoth
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Finally found the answer to why Meg would shoot Christine instead of the Phantom. She wanted the social recognition Christine had, and she knew she could get it sa pamamagitan ng KILLING her, and sa pamamagitan ng killing the Phantom's one true love. punish him, forever!
TBUGoth
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