Leytonfan4ever Lol, GREAT job Abs! PROPS!!!

Lila856 BL fans are stupid. (most not some LOL) "BL are meant to be because they are soulmates" NO THEY`RE NOT BUD LEYTON ARE SO BASICALLY YOU`RE SAYING LEYTON ARE MEANT TO BE CUZ *THEY`RE* THE ONLY REAL SOULMATES OF THE SHOW GO ASK MARK S.

tvfan5 yaaaaaaaaa <3

eka-chan You have excellent points on Leyton. I respect your views and thank you for bringing light into the perspective. There is nothing wrong with Leyton but I just don't support a couple with magnanimous inconsistencies in their romance plot. Personally, I never approved of this couple because they have more cons than pros, that is my opinion, of course. So I'm a Brucas fan? Then why am I commenting here? Well, I'm a Peyton fan, solid and forever in love with her and it's good to read something that can justify her even though her mistakes didn't sit right with me every time I analyze them. I'm not going to defend Brucas here because it wouldn't be polite to be doing that in a pro-Leyton place. But I will ask you on this striking conclusion you have made: "I can see ppl interpreting Peyton's love for Luke as selfish in s5 at first (because of eppy 7 & some of 8), but weak? It was so STRONG that it drove her to make the mistakes she's made over the years" A love strong enough to make you do the same mistakes over the years. What kind of strength could that be? I won't go into semantics of how that is the case but from my own side, if "love" is what you can call that drove Peyton to regress to the past errors, then is that something she should keep doing or improve?

abs07 eka-chan, you make a good point: peyton's repeated mistake is something she needs to improve on. and I never said leyton's strong love had anything to do with strength. It's quite the opposite. Their strong love cripples them and they give into each other virtually everytime. We need to remember that leyton is so connected (which many ppl don't truly understand - I'm still getting my head around leyton's complexity & unique relationship everyday); seperating them is what makes things messy. They're not meant to be apart. At least not without proper closure - which they never had. I won't defend or excuse leyton's mistakes, but I will acknowledge their bond and that ppl tend to misinterpret leyton's relationship as destructive. But again, s4 was far from destructive. Things get destructive when ppl attempt to come between them (s1,3,5). Peyton has found strength over the years to wait for love instead of giving into it (s2/3). Love only makes you strong when you get to share it with the person you love (which was not the case with leyton either time they cheated). We also need to recognize how much peyton's grown since the earlier seasons, and though she has repeated a particular mistake, she's learned and grown it and from others. As all the characters (especially nathan & lucas after watching s5), peyton still has growing up to do.

eka-chan Season 1 showed a strong connection between them but as the seasons progressed, this connection never left the realms of friendship. I actually prefer them platonic; they're more than friends but less than lovers. Lucas saw through her soul and "Your Art matters, it's what's got me here" is a favorite line of mine used on Peyton and as well as Peyton's "I want all the same things that you want and I want them with you." However, they've both had very good relationships with Jake and Brooke respectively. I also believed that Luke and Peyton weren't really that in love; I'm sure they love each other. But love is a feeling and without subsequent action, it becomes insignificant. I never approved on what they have done to attain each other. So I can't settle that what they have is true love because true love doesn't disrupt and constrict individuals and what Peyton and Lucas shared did that to them. They have an emotional connection; although somewhat mostly because they're the same person; same personalities, same preferences and same insecurities. They mirror each other and this seems to be delicate and volatile if that certain connection they have becomes a romantic relationship. In s4, two months before high school graduation, they seemed happy...too happy even and that can't sit with them because Lucas and Peyton like drama and so they invented ways to acquire that. Honestly, they already have each other during the time that Lucas asked her to marry him. There was no obstacle there. They could have closed the deal right there. But they're scared of each other which doesn't appeal as realism to me because from what I've learned, love makes you take a leap of faith. And there's something questionable about how Peyton only came back to Lucas when she was disappointed with her job. It's selfish, that's what I can say. I love Peyton passionately. I see myself in her. But she does need to move forward and grow up and Lucas isn't helping the process because he has his own issues to deal with. I've never seen them deal with their issues together; Lucas left Peyton just because she didn't say yes and couldn't wait; Peyton didn't want to rush and wanted to wait until she is ready. When will that be? The on-off 'will they, won't they' concept of Leyton is exhausting. They are overwhelmingly frustrating. I can see they have a potential to build a life together but it will take them longer if they can't seize to put aside their fears and demands on each other. Lucas goes around committing without even being sure of himself and Peyton still is paranoid about her status in a relationship. Lucas loved Brooke. Peyton loved Jake. In the end, this wasn't enough for the both of them so they sought each other only because together they know there is no prejudice. They're the same people after all. However, if they end up together, I don't believe that it's because they have a fulfilling contentment but because the pull of pessimistic gravity, the hunger to connect without being judged and the boiled lust are inevitable between them and they just have to give in to it. In my opinion, it wouldn't be called 'love.' I say this with all respect since this spot is pro-LP: I can see LPers supporting their bond because it calls for preference and perception and this is my view as a person and everyone else is entitled with an opinion. abs07, I like you as an LPer, reminds me so much of my best friend.

abs07 [b]they've both had very good relationships with Jake and Brooke respectively. I also believed that Luke and Peyton weren't really that in love[/b] I respect your opinion, but Brucas relationship was a mess when they actually were official in s3 (brooke needed constant reassurance that luke loved her; her insecurities were never fully put to rest - even up to 3.17 brooke was insecure - I didn't blame her for going nuts in 3.22 after peyton confessed her feelings for luke though). Brucas were cute, but their connection didn't go as deep as leyton's (in my opinion; but let't not sway over to brucas' relationship, sorry; that's a whole other debate). That's what many ppl miss: Leyton, though their love was young and undeveloped, it had a strong foundation in s1 (and i'm not referring to their love affair, but their friendship and their genuine desire to see one another happy), and though they lost each other for most of s2, they found each other in s3 and were inseperable thereafter. Their friendship was so strong that luke chose to help peyton over brooke shortly after brucas reunited in 3.09. Jeyton's relationship was stronger than brucas' in my opinion (no jealousy or insecurities), but Jake was smart enough (and no offense, more mature than brooke) to realize that he was standing in leyton's way. [b]love is a feeling and without subsequent action, it becomes insignificant. I never approved on what they have done to attain each other[/b] Their love did have subsequent action. just not in a way that everyone understood (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/one-tree-hill/picks/results/93894). Leyton were seperated early on in their love, but luke remained there for peyton more than he was for anyone else throughout the seasons. People saw that as "Luke is there for all his friends so that didn't mean anything". but you saw how much luke was there for peyton - it was in excess, and everyone noticed. I'd agree with you about not approving on how they "obtained" each other if they stayed together after s1. but the fact that brooke found out about their love affair before they were able to tell her (which they tried to to do on a number of occasions) brought peyton to end it. It broke their hearts and they never truly moved on ("It's always gonna be there isn't it? You and me." - Luke). Peyton tried to move on - Jake was the next best thing. she fell in love and he made her happy (a worthy distraction in my opinion). but Luke never left her heart. ever. She successfully repressed her feelings but then they surfaced while she was sleeping and jake caught it. and I remember this exposing quote: "What if Brooke didn't have Lucas?" - Jake. He forced her to confront her emotions as well as the possibility that Luke was still in her heart. I also remember this quote, but mostly the look on luke's face when he repeated a certain line: "Hey. I love you. You know that?" (that's debatable but the look on his face told me he meant it beyond platonism). and when Peyton said "I love you too", the both of them knew they meant it. Even after Peyton realized she was indeed still in love with lucas, she was but honest with brooke to avoid making the same mistakes she had made in the past. She did not try and steal or sway luke. and ppl see peyton and luke's spending time together in s4 (eppies 1-3) as peyton being a backstabbing friend. but remember this: luke was the one who kept going to see peyton. she only really came over the one time 401. Once 405 passed, Luke was there for peyton 100%; she really didn't have anyone else. After the Ian dabocle, peyton continually waited as brucas wasn't as over as she thought. Then, when Luke informed peyton that he and brooke were finally over, Peyton then revealed her feelings to luke. Brooke then gave luke her blessings in 409 for brucas had closure in 408. So [b]that[/b] way leyton obtained each other in a moral selfless way - but it's your opinion to see it otherwise. but for me, again, they only disrupted/constricted individuals when weren't together. When they were official, they disrupted/constricted no one. They had everyone's praises. [b]they seemed happy...too happy even and that can't sit with them because Lucas and Peyton like drama and so they invented ways to acquire that. Honestly, they already have each other during the time that Lucas asked her to marry him. There was no obstacle there. They could have closed the deal right there...there's something questionable about how Peyton only came back to Lucas when she was disappointed with her job. It's selfish, that's what I can say[/b] I don't believe Leyton craves drama or that they were "too" happy; they had waited so long, and so their incredible excitement was a celebration of their long awaited union (but again that comes down to opinion). Their long distance relationship was what created the drama (I don't see it as invented). Would you really marry someone @ 19 when you've only seen the guy a few times in that past year? love is great & everything but it's not enough to found a marriage ("It takes more than love to build a marriage" - Lindsey). In 507, Peyton told luke that she was young and scared when she said she wasn't ready; but she was desperate to get luke back and I believe she would have said anything @ that point. But in 505, Peyton was smart enough and selfless enough for the both of them despite what ppl may think: "Whitey believes in you and Nathan needs you; if I ask you to walk away from your dream you'll wake up one day and you'll resent me for it." Peyton needed to prove to herself that L.A. was or wasn't where she was meant to pursue her dream. The girl was nineteen and knew that if they got married so early on before they pursued their dreams the marriage wouldn't last. Luke was insecure and missed Peyton; so I believe that his proposal was weakly founded at the time. She would have come back once her job went sour whether they were together or not. She made it clear that's when she'd come back ("I have to prove it to myself."). It's not selfsih to want to pursue your dream before you settle down. It's human; it's deserving. [b]Peyton didn't want to rush and wanted to wait until she is ready. When will that be? The on-off 'will they, won't they' concept of Leyton is exhausting. They are overwhelmingly frustrating[/b] Peyton made it clear: "in a year". She needed to pursue her dream further so that she'd have no regrets. That's more than fair. Leyton may seem on and off but they were only official in s4. They've only gone out once. The slip up in s1 wasn't an official relationship, it was love that was interrupted by circumstances. It seems exhausting to you, but the "will they won't they" thing was really only exhausting in s1 (only slightly) & 5, for that's when they had a prayer of being together. Remember, Lucas and Peyton are very complicated ppl who have lived hard lives. Their relationship is therefore complicated when it comes to fears and demands. They both have issues (more lucas than peyton from what we've seen in s5) that they need to grow up & learn from. By 508, Peyton had reached a turning point. Lucas will reach his in 601 from what I've read. So you see, if Leyton wants to make it work, they need to fight through the obstacles which seem exhausting and annoying to some, but worth the wait and worth the trouble for others - if they're meant to be in the end (which is what they need to find out in s6 - leyton fan or not, it needs to happen - final/permanent reunion, no more obstacles; or real closure). [b]Lucas goes around committing without even being sure of himself and Peyton still is paranoid about her status in a relationship. Lucas loved Brooke. Peyton loved Jake. In the end, this wasn't enough for the both of them so they sought each other only because together they know there is no prejudice[/b] Lucas' committments were only folly when they were with anyone [i]but[/i] peyton. I don't know when peyton was ever paranoid about her status in a relationship. Her and luke had an incredible trust between them when they were actually together. Peyton was never jealous or insecure. Luke trusted peyton equally. It was the long distance relationship that rattled luke and drove him to propose in fear of losing the love of his life. At that point, his love wasn't selfless. It was desperately selfish. He wanted peyton for himself, and when he didn't get it he saw it as "You gave up on me; you didn't think I could get my novel published." I think Luke's emotional hangups are greatly connected with his fear of abandonment (given what he went through being abandoned by his father - http://www.fanpop.com/spots/one-tree-hill/picks/results/100423). As for Leyton's love being based on their mirror image of each other rather than true love comes down to opinion, but I believe their love is founded on much more than similarities (s6 may prove otherwise, but from what i've seen, there's much more to it (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/one-tree-hill/picks/results/93266). They had a taste of true love in s1, but were abruptly separated. When they tried to find true love elsewhere, deep down they knew their love surpassed all others - hence their problems with their other respective spouses. I respect your views and I can see why you interpret Leyton the way you do. and to be honest, it took me a while to like leyton. I was quite indifferent when I first started watching OTH in s3. I only saw brucas but found there was something left wanting. When I saw LP in 3.16, something hit me hard with them (that was before I knew they even had a history). That was before I knew they were so similar. Their connection went beyond similarities in my eyes. When I finally watched s1, I was sold. So you see, yes, my views are swayed by my personal preference, but my views were also born from observation of a friendship. I wanted them together after seeing them in that particular episode. When I discovered that history supported their connection, I was even more intrigued and impressed by their intricately written love story. I not only loved them as a duo, but respect what they have. I still rewatch episodes to understand them more, because they are so easily misunderstood by even me at times. I still do wonder if they belong together at times, but my belief in their love has not wavered.

eka-chan You have very interesting points even though I couldn't say I conceive some of them as agreeable to my views but this what I love about the flow of stimulating discussions; the different sides of the argument, the interaction of opinions and so I would first and foremost thank you, abs07, for I enjoyed this Leyton exploration you were generous enough to share to me. I still do not feel intensely with Leyton because no matter how I view the angles and had watched s1-5 just a month ago without interruptions, I couldn't say I wanted Lucas and Peyton together but from your reasons, I certainly won't hold that much grudge against Mark if he has made them "end-game." The "meant-to-be" is still questionable but if s6 would develop and mature Leyton a little then I can see myself nodding my head with my best friend when she says, "Leyton is irrefutable!" (she holds this notion firm and I have finally encouraged her to make an account here. You might get to talk to her someday ;P She's looking for LPers who aren't Brucas bashers but who have nothing to expound to why they support LP.) Somehow I have to share these three traits and see if you can maybe discard them to be flawed because I like the line of your reasoning so I hope you will be nice enough to help me with this: *warning to LPers reading this; this will consist some hurtful words but please don't condemn me* LEYTON TO ME IS: 1) A blatantly painful process of passive-aggressiveness between two people who are alike in style and manner but whose fundamentals and differences repel unconsciously. 2) A romantic affair that's illicit; provokes despair to serve as an ingredient to a temperamental passion that destroys whoever comes near it. 3) A hypocritical discernment on mature relationships when one incriminates the other and together they become egocentric and lost in translation of emotions. Now I am not a hypocrite. I'm solid for BL. I am here to listen to reasons from Leytoners (and for a long time I haven't been getting any which leaves my best friend frustrated as well) but I still hold Brucas and Jeyton as my choice of couples to support. Make no mistake to both LPers and my fellow BLers because as much as you, abs07, interest me greatly, I can never suddenly put faith on Leyton because I made my choice with Brucas. And for the sake of Peyton's welfare, I want her to be with someone who can love her without any more trappings and the best source of happiness in a relationship is often confounded by not just needing to be together but also wanting it at the same time. Unfortunately, I can't discuss Brucas here with you because Leyton is the main focus here and maybe you can visit us sometime in the Brucas spot but of course, this is just a friendly suggestion. I just want to acquire more interesting conversational debates about the never-ending Leyton vs. Brucas. And additionally, abs07, could two people who connect so strongly as friends can develop a romantic passion as their relationship evolve? This is a personal query ^__^

abs07 1) I think leyton are more confrontational than you think (not passive-aggressive). As I said before, Peyton puts luke in his place & luke challenges peyton (I'll give you one example per season but there's more where that came from: s1e21 - "You don't like the person you're becoming then do something about it, cause no one's gonna do it for you"; s2e21 - "Remember when you accused me of being a crappy friend? You were right. So if you need anything, I'm here"; s3 peyton gave luke hell for going with her to see her mom when he had just reunited with brooke: "you're an idiot! You and brooke have been together what a couple hours and you're in the car with me???"; s4e15 "I know you're upset; but I also know you can take the high road; this is completely beneath you!"). When Peyton has a problem with him, she tells him. She eventually confronts her feelings with him as well (s1e9/s4e8/s5e6). For me, leyton's anything but passive aggressive. Even antileyton fans know that leyton has no secrets from eachother which is 1 of the reasons why many fans hate them so (no mystery or whatever bores them). I really doubt that leyton's fundamentals and differences litteraly repel each other. In what way do you mean exactly? Their differences attract one another on a number of levels. Since the pilot, the first time they actually spoke when luke towed her car, they connected. Peyton nearly completely closed up and luke concealed nothing. He let it all out. Peyton's mystery drew luke and luke's warmth drew peyton. Any couple has issues that need ironing out when it comes to personality traits coming together as one. Remember: Luke did leave peyton in L.A when she said she wanted to wait for marriage. But he did end up calling her to come to his book signing with the intention on reuniting with her. The whole lindsey misunderstanding is what complicated things again. Peyton did come which mean the pair of them were willing to work through their disagreement on the marriage front; as long as they were together. Circumstances however (lindsey) once again complicated things. It had nothing to do with opposite personalities repelling another. 2) S1 came off as a romantic affair. but you don't seriously think that it was only passion based do you? Compared to brucas? Or Cooper&Rachel? Common. "You really think I'd risk my friendship with brooke over a fling? Cause I wouldn't do that." Their relationship went beyond passion and romance. I'd hope you'd at least see [i]that[/i]. They slipped up twice because they've tried to repress their feelings. That's when it was destructive. but again, when they waited till it was right and fought for their relationship, there was nothing destructive about it (season 4). 3) S1's love affair was far from mature. I won't defend it. but it was love nonetheless. As the seasons went by, their love matured but remained repressed and packaged into a friendship to keep everyone happy. That repressed love [i]burned fiercely just below the surface[/i] and leyton's words/actions painted it's ever blazing, maturing existence. By the end of season 3, brucas had a turning point and so did peyton. Brooke was heartbroken as she realized that luke would never let her all the way in. Peyton was heartbroken for she realized she could no longer deny her feelings for luke; and her confronting the truth would break her best friend's heart. Leyton were "lost in a translation of emotions" only when they dared to move on without each other. They dared to deny/repress their love and pretend to be friends when they both knew deep down that they're fooling themselves and insulting whatever spouse they attempt to court next. Why do you think it took leyton so long to reunite (season 4)? Egocentric? They were thinking about so many variables ("I just wanted to be honest with you; I didn't wanna make the same mistakes I made before" "She told me she loved me. I just figured it was because she lost a lot of blood. But at some level I knew it was true. I was just too afraid to admit it because, it would've hurt Brooke."). They were afraid to hurt the loved ones around them, that's why it took them so long to finally admit to what's been there since the beginning. A never fleating, strong maturing love that cannot be denied or dismissed as a one time romantic fling. Remember, Leyton as individuals are loveable ppl. So it didn't take them long to find ppl who fell in love with them (brooke;jake). Things got messy after that because while leyton were trying to figure out their feelings, there were now more ppl in the mix. so if leyton dare try and be together, it would hurt their respective spouses. Leyton coming out and admitting their feelings from the beginning would have been like ripping off a sticky bandaid quickly (quick and painful). but the long drawn out numerous seasons of leyton constantly fighting off their hearts is what made things so messy. I think in a number of ways leyton were too selfless (eg. separating to avoid hurting the ppl they love)and in some ways more selfish (cheatingx2). I also care about peyton's welfare. Until season 5 I knew luke was anything but a detrament to her welfare. However when he broke her heart in 505, my view of him changed. and I remembered something. Luke still has a LOT of issues that haven't been resolved. We've been so busy focusing on Peyton's issues and ppl saving Peyton that Luke (though peyton and some of his loved ones have helped him) still has a lot of problems/habits that haven't been remedied. So we need to cut luke a break. We forget that he's also human. He's seen as this amazing guy in the show, then s5 came along, and we saw just how human he is (even with his precious peyton) and we figure that leyton's a lost cause, but we forget that oh wow, even leyton's relationship isn't perfect). They don't just need to be together, they also want it. They were just afraid of hurting the ppl around them. "I want Lucas (513)." and Luke's phonecall @ the airport speaks for itself (518). Lastly, their friendship was a consolation prize of a love that could not be at the time (end of s1, s2, and most of s3). "You believe that you and P.Sawyer are just friends??" Their connection always went beyond friendship. Always. Friends is all they were permitted to be, and so they settled for it. They always spent more time together than usual friends should, given that luke [b]was[/b] dating brooke. The romantic passion was always there (it never needed developing - their relationship needed maturing; and it has), but that wasn't the source of their connection. It was much more than that. I mean, brucas had romantic passion, but you wouldn't say that was all they had. Any couple could have romantic passion. That could mean absolutely nothing but sexual in most cases if there isn't something stronger to hold 2 ppl together for so many years (over half a decade in leyton's case). but anyways, you have the right to your opinion in the end. as do I :)

Cheery_Penelope whatever BLers say when they disregard dt Leyton is the original concept and no matter how they think Leyton are selfish and cheating liars, i still wnt them to be 2geder cuz i agree on your point dt deyr only happy 2geder and d reason deyr crappy is cuz deyr not around each other,,. luke's constant presence in peyt's life is gratifying 4 me cuz he saves her from herself and he saw through her soul as well. their relationship is like a glue and they always will be seeking 4 each other 4 that magnificent connection,,. "There's always gonna be there, is it, you and me?" LEYTON IRREFUTABLE <3 <3 leyton is not going to be about sunshines all the tym and they did have plenty of passionate arguments and misunderstanding & ds only made me love dm more cuz their deep connection is so overwhelming dt dey can't seem to handle it. in the end dey realize dey r the same worlds and will always be close 2 each other's hearts, minds, souls. in season 1 i was secretly wishing peyt would just let luke in cuz dey can have everything 2geder but because mark wants to prolong it, it turned out well,,. the slow process of finding their way back 2 each other left me cringing,,. i love brooke and she's my favorite but i don't think brucas is that strong compared to leyton,,. i think brooke needs someone better than luke because luke is made to fall in love and take care of a girl lyk peyt,,. brooke needs to let go. she overreacted when peyt confessed feelings 4 luke and she's insecure abt leyton,,. in season 5 she admitted that and she's pro-LP now! yay! brookey-brooke can find someone someday who will grant her the same level of connection leyton acquired,,. all she needs 2 do is open her heart and wait. and besides, i already knw that leyton will be back again,,. i always rooted 4 dm even when brucas seems so cute and sweet,,. & follow up to my bff eka-baby question that you didn't answer, do you think friends who have a strong connection can be romantically passionate abt each other? xoxo nice to meet you btw abso7, i'm cheery-p!

abs07 hi cheery :) I did answer eka's last quetion about friendship into romance. See my last paragraph. I basically said "yes", lol. In an exagerated way :) : If you're referring to leyton, they never started out as "friends". They settled for it. If anything, it's from [romantic passionate] true, deep, never fleating LOVE packaged down to friendship. but if eka is talking about a hypothetical situation, I'd still say yes. I think it depends on the two friends and how they see each other. It depends on how deep the connection goes and it depends on the sort of connection the two have. However, two ppl who are soulmates for example could be friends and nothing more. They could be siblings/family. To me, being soulmates has nothing to do with it. It's icing on the cake. but yeah, I'd say the conversion is definitely possible (look @ jacey from dawson's creek) :)

Cheery_Penelope oh tnx 4 dt! how can i call u btw? eka-baby writes stories and she has this characters hu strike me so mux lyk leyton,,. deyr so connected and so deep 2geder dt i wonder why eka-baby stl portrays dm as friends but i cn see dt she can surprise d readers if she went frm der den proceed to developing it mor 2 a passion of romance,,...corz u dnt knw wt i'm talking abt,,, lol! I think it depends on the two friends and how they see each other. It depends on how deep the connection goes and it depends on the sort of connection the two have. i tnk ds sums it up and ur views on ds 1 as well as lp is very rewarding,,. ive always wanted 2 make an account to have a say on lp 2 but i'm scared to be broken down, ya know...by BLers...i dnt have mux to say lyk eka-baby but i love LP and dnt wnt 2 be hurt abt it..,,good thing eka-baby made friends with some of BLers and dey seem nice and open 2...but i can't face dm cuz i'm a brooke fan and yet i go for leyton..but eka-baby also has the same paradox, ayt? peyt fan but brucasser...@__@ i dnt lyk lpers and blers fighting...it makes me dizzy wen i read dem doing dt.

eka-chan WTF bhez?!!! Why do you have to mention such trivial thing about those two of my fictional characters? And you still haven't given up on that Leyton similarities with Keanona, eh? Thanks again, abs07, for clearing those three morbid points of mine on LP. I still stick to them like they're some kind of creed though; however it's good to hear someone's disagreements on them. So Leyton is misunderstood at some point...hmmm... In any case, I want Brucas back as well as Jeyton. And Jake as "a worthy distraction" :( is that a compliment? I can't decide how to interpret it.

abs07 Jake being a worthy distraction isn't exactly a compliment. Not an insult either. It sums up what Jeyton had only when compared to Leyton. He kept her busy from her feelings that never wavered from luke since s1. As soon as he left she was a mess cause she was afraid of being alone (s2). S3 came around and peyton said "I let him go, and now I'm starting to think it was a mistake." Now ppl can interpret that as Jake or Luke. but why then did peyton not just say his name as she did nathan's when she was talking about him to ellie (saying luke's name would complicate things cause she knows brooke is with him)? and Peyton never "let" jake go, but he left anyhow and she could see him if she truly wanted; s3e21 also has loads of evidence to support this possibility (fairytale analogy carried on from 3.13 for one) so it leads me to believe that since she [b]did[/b] let luke go in s1, that it was indeed him she was talking about (but despite the damning evidence, there's no way to prove that so I won't debate on it). I enjoyed our debate. Don't worry I never expected or hoped to convert you. I am glad you're open to the possibility that Leyton is highly misinterpreted/misunderstood "There were many who did not understand." - Luke. Your personal preference is not something I'd ever ask you to waver from. I always love to widen someone's understanding of a concept though (ie brooke/brucas but mostly peyton/luke/leyton):) and cheery, you can call me abby :)

svety74 You pointed out interesting points :) from a Leyton fan, ABS07 your articles are amazing and makes me love Leyton even more. There were things which I never really thought of, thank you so much