Hello other Oncers. I been a tagahanga of OUAT since the season 2. I binged watch on the first season during the summer prior to Season 2. I noticed online elsewhere some people crabbing about stuff like "Snow's dad abused Regina?" and I thought I should get people straight on historical stuff.
Lesson 1: Why is pre-dark one Rumple viewed as a coward? This goes along nicely with a non-OUAT topic of mine- Why do Dads in fairytales never do anything? (not counting Rapunzel's dad).
As far back as the hunter-gather area. Dads' were suppose to be the breadwinners and soldiers for their families. Kids-step and not, the home/house, servants-were all the wife's responsibilities no matter how many wives he had (if it was in the Asian cultures its a different story). In medieval times dying in battle was well noble. Since one was giving up his life for his country or group. Some people today still believe that. Rumple is considered a coward because he was what we would call today a 'family man' 300+ years before the term existed in our world. And when you also consider he crippled himself-disabilities wouldn't understood very well until the 1960s (and still aren't). So I'm not surprised that Miliah didn't like being tied to the village cripped coward-but being a widow would have been a lot worse but it would have been an honourable thing.
Lesson 2: courtship
The term boyfriend didn't come into being until the 1920s much lie the word 'dating'. Back in medieval times and until the 1900s(?) people didn't live as long as they do today. So that they needed to marry young sometimes as young as 12 years old for girls. IF they were a princess (like Eva) and Prince (like Lepold) they were mostly likely were betrothed since birth. There would have been a period of courtship (in nicer families)- before getting married. If someone didn't get married in those days sa pamamagitan ng the age of 21 they were considered an old maid. Regina marrying her mom's ex-fiancee mattered little.
Lesson 3: Regina being left alone at a castle.
I'm not very surprised on this one. Back in those days someone (usely the wife or daughters) would have to be left at 'home' when the king or lord went on trips to other castles or (if they're lords) to court. I believe that the king might have taken snow so she could see what is suppose to become her future land to rule (and maybe to meet some princes or nobleman's boys she could be bethroed too?). As for King being too 'in love' with his dead first wife-not too surprising their-his first wife gave him an heir (not a male one but an heir netherless). Ever heard of Henry VIII? He had 6 wives but the one he loved the most was his 3rd one who died after giving him what he wanted. As for why Regina couldn't have a 'lover' someone either the lover or the reyna or both would had to be executed-aka Catherine Howard.
Lesson 4: Regina not having children sa pamamagitan ng king
Regina not having children sa pamamagitan ng Snow's dad doesn't mean she was infertile. It just she never was interested in marrying Snow's dad in the first place. Remember how Cora sinabi that Regina accepted? Cora was the one who accepted it on Regina's behalf so technically it was a forced marriage. I also got the feeling they never "consummated" the marriage either.
If I remember correctly in castles like Snow's, the reyna (or in many cases, lady) has a separate suites of rooms including a bedroom then the king (or lord) does. This is seen in Season 1 episode "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" '
Anyone have a history tanong they want answer please comment.
Lesson 1: Why is pre-dark one Rumple viewed as a coward? This goes along nicely with a non-OUAT topic of mine- Why do Dads in fairytales never do anything? (not counting Rapunzel's dad).
As far back as the hunter-gather area. Dads' were suppose to be the breadwinners and soldiers for their families. Kids-step and not, the home/house, servants-were all the wife's responsibilities no matter how many wives he had (if it was in the Asian cultures its a different story). In medieval times dying in battle was well noble. Since one was giving up his life for his country or group. Some people today still believe that. Rumple is considered a coward because he was what we would call today a 'family man' 300+ years before the term existed in our world. And when you also consider he crippled himself-disabilities wouldn't understood very well until the 1960s (and still aren't). So I'm not surprised that Miliah didn't like being tied to the village cripped coward-but being a widow would have been a lot worse but it would have been an honourable thing.
Lesson 2: courtship
The term boyfriend didn't come into being until the 1920s much lie the word 'dating'. Back in medieval times and until the 1900s(?) people didn't live as long as they do today. So that they needed to marry young sometimes as young as 12 years old for girls. IF they were a princess (like Eva) and Prince (like Lepold) they were mostly likely were betrothed since birth. There would have been a period of courtship (in nicer families)- before getting married. If someone didn't get married in those days sa pamamagitan ng the age of 21 they were considered an old maid. Regina marrying her mom's ex-fiancee mattered little.
Lesson 3: Regina being left alone at a castle.
I'm not very surprised on this one. Back in those days someone (usely the wife or daughters) would have to be left at 'home' when the king or lord went on trips to other castles or (if they're lords) to court. I believe that the king might have taken snow so she could see what is suppose to become her future land to rule (and maybe to meet some princes or nobleman's boys she could be bethroed too?). As for King being too 'in love' with his dead first wife-not too surprising their-his first wife gave him an heir (not a male one but an heir netherless). Ever heard of Henry VIII? He had 6 wives but the one he loved the most was his 3rd one who died after giving him what he wanted. As for why Regina couldn't have a 'lover' someone either the lover or the reyna or both would had to be executed-aka Catherine Howard.
Lesson 4: Regina not having children sa pamamagitan ng king
Regina not having children sa pamamagitan ng Snow's dad doesn't mean she was infertile. It just she never was interested in marrying Snow's dad in the first place. Remember how Cora sinabi that Regina accepted? Cora was the one who accepted it on Regina's behalf so technically it was a forced marriage. I also got the feeling they never "consummated" the marriage either.
If I remember correctly in castles like Snow's, the reyna (or in many cases, lady) has a separate suites of rooms including a bedroom then the king (or lord) does. This is seen in Season 1 episode "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" '
Anyone have a history tanong they want answer please comment.
Ruby&Granny in Broken:
When Snow/Charming were hugging Emma, Ruby and Granny are obviously in the background. But nobody seems to notice the way they look at each other nearer the end. I don't have any pictures for any of these, but go back and watch the episodes if you don't believe me! They give each other such a loving look, and I find it adorable.
Regina&Cora in Manhattan:
I'm sure some people have picked on the fact that when Hook barged into Regina's room, Cora and Regina were holding hands. I'm always curious as to why they were, but it was really cute.
Neal in Going Home:
When Regina took hold of the curse and she collapsed to the ground, Neal immdeiatly went to catch her head to make sure she didn't hit it off the ground and pass out even more. Most people just notice Emma and Henry running over to help her, but I just noticed Neal! Such a gentleman :')
When Snow/Charming were hugging Emma, Ruby and Granny are obviously in the background. But nobody seems to notice the way they look at each other nearer the end. I don't have any pictures for any of these, but go back and watch the episodes if you don't believe me! They give each other such a loving look, and I find it adorable.
Regina&Cora in Manhattan:
I'm sure some people have picked on the fact that when Hook barged into Regina's room, Cora and Regina were holding hands. I'm always curious as to why they were, but it was really cute.
Neal in Going Home:
When Regina took hold of the curse and she collapsed to the ground, Neal immdeiatly went to catch her head to make sure she didn't hit it off the ground and pass out even more. Most people just notice Emma and Henry running over to help her, but I just noticed Neal! Such a gentleman :')
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